+ 1 Winter Bulker Advice Wanted
So this past summer I ran a nice Test P, Mast P, Tren A cycle for 8 weeks and gained a lot of lean mass and loved the feeling it gave me throughout the entire time on.
Test p- 250/week 1-8
Mast p-350/week 1-8
Tren a-350/week 1-8
PCT clomid and nolva for a month
Now for the winter I was thinking about having all the same compounds, but just the Ethanate esters so I dont feel like such a pin cushion and can maybe add in a dbol kick start?
Dbol 35mg/day week 1-4
Test E 400mg/week 1-12
Mast E 500mg/week 1-12
Tren E 500mg/week 1-10
HCG 500ius 2xweek 3-12
PCT clomid and nolva for a month
I want to know if anyone has noticed a huge difference from switching esters like this, and if I should keep dosages the same as my summer cycle or keep whats i have planned here, also was wondering if the dbol would be a little too much?
Any advice is greatly appreciated
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We probably cant keep u from cycling, but if ur willing to listen and take some critiscm regarding diet and minimal compounds, u will learn a hell of a lot...brother
RustyhookerGet hhm to post up foods and bet with modified eating he hits 220 if he's pumping hard
I work out 4-5 times a week and eat at least 4 full meals a day with a couple mini meals.
I dont want to be 220, for me anything past 215 is too much on my shins for when i need to run long distances. being huge is never really what I want, I just would like a little more lean muscle,and strength which is really hard at 205 natural, I feel like I'm at my genetic max here
WELL THEN THAT IS NOT A BULK!! YOU POST A BULKING DIET OR U AINT GETTING NO MORE HELP. YOU FREAKIN HEAR ME??
I'm really sorry, I should put Winter lean bulk for the title, my mistake
Do what u gotta do to get it right and get square by tomorrow....i mean it...i got my eye on u...u waste our time and ur gone...u hear me?
Okay so just so I understand what i need to do, you want me to show you what I eat in one normal day/ week? natural or on cycle?( i eat differently while on cycle)
I'm sorry I'm very new to all this forum stuff, its never been my bread and butter explaining all these personal details online so you'll have to forgive me for not giving all details you wanted
Daily macros and calories for a bulker would be perfect. An off cycle bulker. We will talk about the other later. You dig, brother?
Alright so for me to bulk
my daily cals from macros should be 4100cals/day (205x20)
Protein 164g/day (205x0.8)
Fats 102g/day (205x0.5)
Protein and fat calories= 1574 (164x4)+(102x9)
Carbs 631g/day (4100-1574) / 4
Going off these daily stats religiously I think is a great start, I've neevr really counted my macros, but i promise i will start as of now on, i'll also readjust for certain goals .
You're a mile away here. I've had that by mid morning on a bulk.
RustyhookerYes. Needs big adjustment in calories and protein especially.
Not sure where u got this, but calories look like a good start. Need to tweek the protein and fat up. Protein=1.5g/lbs of body weight. So, 205x1.5=? Fats can come up and carbs can come down a little.
Thanks a lot guys, much appreciated!!
ill fix this up after work
You need to take Cats advice about the protein...
Take that protein number you listed above and double it. And I mean food, not shakes. Beef, pork, chicken, fish, eggs etc.
Thanks a lot!
I rarely tend to make protein shakes really, only if i have no time to make a real meal, or right after a workout and casein before bed, that's about it
I usually prepare all my meals at the start of the day, doubling my protein wont be a problem since i freaking love meat, thanks again eh, you guys helped push me in the right direction. just wish I could do something in return lol
Use your protein shakes post workout and casein before bed, that's exactly what I do. Simple rule when bulking, if it used to move, eat it ;)
I dig
Gotcha.....pushin for diet....modified diet...waiting for OP.
Do u have test prop on hand...enuff to kick start? And do u have provi on hand? And your goal for this bulk is to gain how many pounds, increase decrease body fat to what %, and what kind of calorie and macros we lookin at for.your winter bulker?
And, for real bro, u gotta get precycle, midcycle and post cycle.blood work. U freakin hear me...lol?
Do u have test prop on hand...enuff to kick start? And do u have provi on hand?
I have a little test prop left from the summer, like 7 ml, some dbol, adex and caber, all leftovers from previous cycles, Havent made an order in yet for the next cycle
U never ran provi? Is the prop 100mg/cc? I want u to run dbol again...u got TUDCA?
No never ran Proviron before, always wanted to try it out, im guessing its similar to the mast tho right?
I got boat loads of milk thistle but no TUDCA.
Food ... Food.... Food... Food....
If you can't eat, Do not touch any compound or not even weights lol
I know how to eat buds
RustyhookerI DOUBT YOU KNOW HOW TO EAT. HIGH SCHOOL FOOT ALL ER ARE NATURAL AND BIGGER. ITS 100% FOODS.
.. StatsAge: 25Height: 6Weight: 205BF: 12%
I eat very well
You need to understand that my goals in the past were never to get HUGE.
Ur probably right...glad ur here...lets get this thread rolling bro...
RustyhookerSince I'm just blowing smoke here, this lists what stats are needed to enter college football at 18 years old.
http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/02/07/how-big-are-college-footb...
List each cycle u successfully completed and tell us whether, or not, you met ur goal? Thanks.
Welcome to the site, bro!
Alrighty so cycle history is as follows
cycle 1 Just wanted to try it out
weeek
1-12 test E 500mgs
1-4 dbol 30mg/day
clomid and nolva 2 weeks after last pin for PCT,I had a full recovery, I couldnt believe the gains from that cycle, went from 170lbs to 195lbs. 3 months after pct i was at 185lbs
cycle 2 wanted to make a lean bulk/mid way change in goals to keeping just lean
week
1-14 test E 500mg
1-12 EQ 600mg
1-4 dbol 30mg/day
Pct was the same as before except this time i used HCG after week 14 to 16 to get the boys rolling again.
This cycle was great at the start of the cycle i was gaining a lot, but after i discontinued the dbol my training drastically changed all due to work related changes, so I didnt get to actuall lift as much as i wanted to, instead i did more running than i've ever done, at the end of that cycle i was only 190, but mind you I didnt want to gain that much due to all the running.
cycle 3 just wanted to go back to the basics
week
1-12 test e 500
1-4 dbol 50mg/day
6-12 hcg 500iu/week
standard pct
This cycle was great as well, started at 185 and went to 195 after full time off
cycle 4 summer cutter
week
1-8 test prop 250mg
1-8 tren a 350mg
1-8 mast p 350
This cycle was by far my most favourite, so strong and hard all the time.
once again i wasnt looking to actually gain that much weight, just sorta get chizzled, and i had a great beach body this past summer, ended my standard pct in mid july
Now I wanna make it clear that my diet is in check, and I take training very serious,
For each cycle i had an AI on hand and have never needed to use it
also in cycle 4 with the tren i had caber but once again, didnt need to use it
This is my cycle history and I know its frowned upon that i started too soon or used too many cycles/compounds. I have gotten bloods done at the start of the month and the doc said everything is ALL GOOD. So I'm guessing I'm doing things right in regards to recovery,
I'm here for YOUR guy's help, not get trolled on by condescending douchbags,
Thanks for the welcome Medx ! I truly do appreciate any help
Thank you sir.
Let's do this go and research each compound and its effects .. After you have done that come back in here and I wil help you I will do you no good unless you have a understanding of why your cycle is wrong .. Do that and we wil get you fixed
I honestly have done lots of research on almost every compound out there, I never have just looked at steroid and used it without knowing exactly what it does and what dosages should be met or how long to use it for.
I had really great results with the tren and mast last time, like amazing actually, thats the only reason i wanted to use it again, but if you all think its a horrible idea ill defintely stay away
I agree. And this is perfect for teaching, in addition to what i wanted him to do too. This guy needs some fine tuning. And he will learn from good people on here.
Ive done 4 cycles, I started steroids when i was170 pounds and 22 years old(sorry)
I was born in 1990 and yes I'm 25 lol
Diet is good MOSTLY clean food, right now im at 3000cal/ day, but when I'm on i tend to eat LOTS more especially on bulkers. I also have been working out steady since 08 when I joined the military.
I just wanted to know if i up my dosages with these enanthate esters will it give the same effects as the dosages i have already done in the past summer cycle.
Also since the esters are longer to kick in I was considering dbol at a nice low dose to see some results early.
Seems like everyone is 25 now
lol they seem not to age
Yep...25 and too many cycles and wanting to use too many compounds. These kids are getting ahead of themselves.
Unfortunately these kids underestimate the risks and concerns.
They just want to get bigger in a flash. Assuming that roids or PEDs will make them look like HULK in a month or two lol
I know the risks of using steroids man, I'm also not a fucking kid. I also never wanted to look like HULK in a month or 2 either.
in a flash? you talkin bout me foool lol. good comment.
Yep...they lack maturity in all areas...we are changing and growing here at Eroids on a daily basis. Thanks for the input brother...its much appreciated.
Welcome to Eroids...
yep!
Complete stats
So have u just done one cycle? U have all those other steroids up there and u wanna know if dbol is gonna be too much...lol...i would hold the mast and tren. Whats ur diet look like cuz a bulker is mainly based off of diet.