posted Mon, 07/13/2020 - 15:17
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Winstrol and Anavar
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I am currently using:
- 300mg of Test Prop/week
- 200mg of Test Cyp/week (TRT)
- 500IU of HCG/week (TRT)
I am going to add Winstrol (which I already have). I am thinking 25mg/per day (oral) for 6 weeks.
I'd like to add Anavar in a similar dose. What do you think? I'm looking to cut but to keep or add muscle while doing so. If you don't think this is good what have you had good results with? Thanks!
FYI, I came back and edited the amounts of test I was taking. I am taking more test then what I originally said.
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the only reason i could see justifying using anavar and winny during the same cycle is do anavar at the beginning and winny at the end but not together at the same time.
2 orals in one cycle is surely not a good idea. Use anavar or winstrol and keep your liver values checked.
Thanks, I’ve been off the cycle for 8 weeks. I just got my blood panel back and liver is functioning in normal range.
PcushionYour liver and lipids are going to take a serious beating brother. You run those two it can be the better part of a year before they return to normal, with assistance.
Thank you. I agree. I did my research. I did blood tests prior to the cycle, on cycle and I’ll do another before I start another cycle. I’m also taking my supplements and consumed no alcohol. But I agree with you. Taking these compounds isn’t healthy.
RustyhookerAge: 51
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 220
BF: 17%
Goal? 2orals a waste....
Maybe a waste for you. Not for me. I gained muscle and lost weight. My goal was to go from 235 to 225 while adding and keeping muscle. Goal accomplished. BF% went down muscle went up. I'm good.
Then you need to change your name to RichXL
Funny! I’m 220 & I wear an XL. Considering I was over 300 pounds years ago I’ve lost a lot. These days my goals are all centered around losing fat and gaining muscle not what my weight is.
Rustyhookerpasses a cookie
IMO id bump up the anavar son! Unless it’s a budget issue.
I did. It's not a budget issure. I started the Anavar at 25. Went up to 50 for about 4 weeks. I like Anavar a lot. I haven't done a lot of other compounds yet but I very much enjoyed the pumps and hardness to my muscles.
gearboy667Train wreck cycle lol
I'd run test at 500mg t0 750mg all day over 500 spread out, not a huge fan of prop personally
Most people don't ru n HCG during the cycle that I talk with, pct related or post cycle
Train wreck is a little strong. lol. I like the way prop feels but I don't like the PIP. I was running the HCG with my TRT back when I was on that. So that carried over to my cycle. It's a small amount on cycle just to feel normal. I'm relatively new to this. Shriveled balls bug me. But when doing the PCT I upped the HCG along with some Nolva and Clomid. .
Anavar and winstrol are my 2 favorite orals to stack together. Especially when I’m competing...
I've stack winny and anavar before, im actually stacking it right now, just started this week. Be careful i made the mistake of running winny to long and my tendons are shot, 2 reasons, winny is a great strength gainer and drys out the joints and makes tendons rupture. Suffered a complete tendon tear last year. Someone will ask why i still continue to use winstrol? My answer is i took a year long break from it and its my favorite compound, i respond well to it. I looked my best using it
I think 25 mg a day of Anavar is good! In the 70s and 80s it came in a 2.5 mg pill pharmacy grade and was $12/18 a bottle. People would take 7 to 8 a day and grow! No need to take large amounts of mg’s like everybody does these days; try to take the least amount that’ll make you grow and train harder, eat better, sleep more!
I personally prefer Anavar for those goals, I think winstrol with the drying effect is more suited for competition prep than regular Joe's. Also winny really hurts my joints so it wasn't worth using.
I would do anavar at a higher dosage than 25mg. I would at a minimum consider 25mg 2x a day. I would also switch up your hcg protocol. I have become a believer of micro dosing hcg. HCG has a half life of 24-36 hours. Taking it everyday will stimulate testosterone production on a daily basis. Take 75iu ED. Add 2ml of water to your hcg vial. Draw to the 3iu line on the insulin syringe.
The Anavar I ordered yesterday is 50MG so that works well. I'll look into the micro dosing. Thx!
AlphaStrength50If you can afford the var I'd go with it since Winny is a joint and lipid killer
AnonI've had great results from adding Anavar to the end of a cycle.
At 6’1” 235 lbs and 50 years old, I’m going to guess you’re not super lean or planning to step on stage. If I were you I wouldn’t use Winstrol. I used it two cycles ago and it was super hard on my joints. It felt like I got a glimpse of what it would feel like to be 20 years older. It did make me a good deal stronger but it wasn’t worth it. If your really lean and your joints are good and you want to achieve that grainy look then I’d say ok. A long time ago the first stuff I ever got ahold of was deca and winstrol because just about everyone has heard of them so that’s what I asked for. I’d just go with the anavar. I do kind of have a love affair with it, like a lot of people do have their favorite oral as well, for full disclosure. I got winstrol sitting around like you do but I feel like I might as well toss it.
I wasn't really thinking of the joint pain. When lifting bench or incline my right elbow joint hurts next day. Not much I can do about it. I was hoping as I keep getting stronger my joint would eventually adapt or something and not get worse.
Try a compression sleeve while lifting and ice it after lifting. I’m doing it for my elbow right now. There’s a lot more you can do besides that too, but for me those are the main propitious things I do.
I agree, Winny is great for strength and power gains but the damn joint pain just IS NOT worth it at the other end. Its like you gain the strength on it but you can't use it because of the discomfort!! Lol Even running NPP or Deca at the same time doesn't do enough to stop it.
Winny mostly makes me feel like an 80 year old, but brings veins out like crazy! I took it with a bombs one time and didn’t get any joint pain though.
Pick one or the other bro..even though they're both mild on the liver I personally wouldn't mix 2 orals at all unless the other is proviron..
I actually don’t believe that mixing orals is a bad idea. I like to look at them from a “total milligram” standpoint. I base these types of things off of bloodwork and what is going to be more harmful to your body/liver.
Would I recommend 100mg of dbol stacked with 100mg of anadrol? Fuck no lol! But do I think 25mg of each is ok to stack? Yes because that’s only 50mg total.
I agree, i mix orals with great affects but never over 100mgs total combined. I personally prefer injectable winny, i have gastro issues and i think it works better for me
That's a totally different story..i agree 2 at lower doses it's safer than taking 1 at a super high dose for sure..his dose of winny is low enough he could match it with the var and only be at 50..how u been brother it's been a while
I am like 21% body fat. Not good. My idea for taking the Winstrol and Anavar for 5-6 weeks at the end of my cycle is to go into a calorie deficit while still lifting just as much. This way I trim down but keep my muscle. I could really use the added size and strength I'd get from other compounds like Dbol but I'm not looking to add water retention weight. Maybe I'll skip the Winstol for now and just add Anavar.
21% i wouldn't even use anything until your 15 or less. More prone to side effects at higher fat.
If he’s jacked and just got little puffy from being off cycle I would recommend at least some Anabolics to hold what muscle he has with a slightly more intense than normal diet. Basically just using for anti catabolic stuff
What’s your bf % now?
Cycle is over. I dropped 15 pounds and added a noticeable about of muscle. My body fat went down but is still somewhere around 17%. Still have a long way to go but I liked the results.
Can you post pics?