posted Fri, 12/27/2013 - 07:30
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Triblend cut cycle
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I just started here and was looking around and found a triblend cut stack prop/mast/tren. I have only ran test p 100 at 1.5 eod with tren .75. I know its probably a dumb question but couldn't find anything about dosing. If the test/mast/tren are all 100 and I'm planning on going 1.5 ed am I correct in assuming with the mix that I'm still going to pin just the 1.5 or am i missing something. This blend stuff is all new to me here so I apologize for the lamo question.
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Bro, for the Lord's good name, yes we get tired. But what makes us tired is not folk that want to learn. Not folk that will do reading on the forums BEFORE asking for advice. It's the very young that know it all and are already pinning compounds like Tren with no cycle history, no gym time, 160 lbs. at 21 years old soaking wet.
I still have some energy for this and it will be quite a while before I fade in with the "vets" - could take years even. You seem like a good bro with the right spirit and I think that's worth a point from me.
Ok, so i took my phone took a pic and compared it. Im closer to the 20% vs the 25% and I have already been working the cardio and will be implementing the carb discussion. By the time I get everything squared away I think I should be within a good range. But still higher than most would like i know.
I also came across this thread as well and will be immediately implementing it. What an awesome thread! http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/wanna-get-ripped-read-t...
No problem, looking at the link I'm between the 20-25, its a good link!!!! with my body, arms, legs everything is solid not CUT but solid mid section is where i carry it..... I am very much an endomorph body type
Ok some wouldn't agree but I believe most would that you're going to need to get that bodyfat down a bit before you do any juice. This is where the real discipline is. The kitchen. Whether you building or cutting it all starts in the kitchen. If you do a simple LBM calculation you should be able to find your carb maintenance thresh hold. By doing this you find out how many calories it takes to maintain your current size and run it at 500 below maintenance. Couple that with a half hour to 45 min of cardio ed and the fat will start to roll off. Adjust the calories as the weight comes off. You need to figure out your macros bro. It's very important and for me this is the biggest pain in the arse. You need to figure out what your protein, carbs, fats, and calories are per day. I'll get back to ya bro but right now I've got to bounce. We'll have you running a quality cycle in no time.
New, you have no idea how good that is to hear bro!! After I wrote that all out I've been dreading the ass reaming I was expecting to get and you have clearly taken the time to not do that, much much appreciated! Ill look for the friends request!
Ok let's start by doing this. Check this link out and tell me where you fall on %bodyfat. Usually it's a humbling experience if you're just guessing. I went through and it was very humbling. When I started I was very near the 30% mark. So check it out. 220 on a 5' 8" frame is bodybuilder status if you very low on bodyfat. So check it out and get back to me. It's good to do this on open forum so other eroid bros can weigh in. Most are on holiday right now so be patient. I think this holiday season is the same for the Euros and the Yanks
http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/
Im a little frustrated, not going to lie. And I can only imagine how you feel reading this. I don't want to piss anyone off by any means and you are right, some of my previous cycles have been from the "gym rat" as you said. So to answer your questions on previous cycles I don't remember the doses because they were from awhile ago but I did start off the whole aas on orals, I forget the name of it but i know its no longer available. I ran I think two cycles with a mix of a cheap oral that was actually available off amazon at the time and then ran a pct that someone said was available from GNC. That was when I started to look at injectables. I had a buddy, yes the gym rat that was cut as hell so i asked him to help set me up.
My first run was only test p 100, the cycle ran 8 weeks and was dosed at 100mg eod mon, wed, and fri. then for pct I had found a company that sold clomid and nolva. I don't remember the doses that I ran on the pct.
The second cycle he had me set up on test p 100 at 125 mg eod with winni at i THINK .75 eod. Then again I ran nolva and clomid for pct. This cycle felt pretty good to me.
My third cycle was a run of test p dosed at 1.5 eod with tren a .75 eod with again the same clomid and nolva pct. For the life of me I can't remember the dosing on my pct and I do know that I was shut down pretty damn hard after the third cycle. I think it was due to not researching the best place to buy pct.
So between the last cycle not going too good for me and finding that pip isn't supposed to happen I decided to throw what I knew or THOUGHT i knew out the window and start all over. That was when I really started to look at the different forums and tried to learn what I could. Heres the biggest problem I find with the boards. I can attempt to research the hell out of everything but what is mostly found is "hey guys Im running this cycle at this dosage, what do you think?" Some guys may post their thoughts and others rip them a new asshole for not researching. But yet where is the info there looking for? This has to be hands down the best site I have found that actually has stickies at the top to show you HOW to set up a cycle, what to eat, how to research sources etc. The other problem I find is that there really are some heavy hitters that have been doing this for years. They have seen so many guys come in and ask the same question, what do i do, this is the cycle i was going to run, etc. And its completely off because they either came in from the "gym rat" like me or all they are finding are the same posts I find of guys running a cycle and getting feedback. BUT the feedback seems to be like the blind leading the blind because the vets are so sick and tired of teaching that they rip their hair out and blow up.
So with that being said I know that I will probably get an ass reaming and while its probably completely justified for me doing the same bs everyone else did when they started out I really would like to learn. I mean hell, we all started out somewhere and either someone took you under their wing or they learned by trial and error.
So heres where the cycle came from that i posted. I have looked around at a few different forums now before stumbling here. My wife gets pissed because thats all i do is look on these forums, trying to learn what I can through the plethora of pages saying what do you think of this cycle. I have read the rules here, how to plan a cycle, etc. and even read them a few times just to try and pick up something I may have missed. While I was on another forum there was someone that I had chatted with that sent a link of what he considered a "classic" cut cycle. Then I talked to a few others that SEEMED to be more "veteran" members (not on this site) that talked about adding the pram, aroma and letro. So this is where is sit, I am fully wiling to scrap everything I thought I knew and start all over. So please show me that this site TRULY is about helping people that are looking to learn. Im not to arrogant or stuck on my ways to say screw off because I really do what to learn here and from all the other sites I have seen this seems to be a very helpful community.
So in closing thank you for being understanding and not just reaming my ass off.........
Ok good answer and now we know where you stand! +1 Just for having a good attitude and being willing to throw out the trash and start fresh. Gym buddies can get you in trouble. Friend request sent
New, shoot me a message please when its convenient. I would love to chat a bit.
Ok so after the schooling (much appreciated) I have gone back to the original plan while I do a little more research on trying blends. I fully understand what everyones saying about buying the blends, I DO need to learn more on dosing etc. Just trying to find more info on it. Must be a little deep in the archives, at least from an initial search. Anyways this is the run I'm planning once I find someone I feel comfortable with. Im open to suggestions but for the most part i THINK its a pretty square plan. Im contemplating the keto diet or just carb cycling but either way just keeping the diet tight without completely eliminating everything.
It will be a 12 week run with the following.
Tren A .5mg ed
Mast P .5mg ed
Test P .5mg ed
Aroma 10mg ed
Prami .25 ed IF my body will allow it this may vary
Letro .5mg x2 per week (I do know that i am prone to gyno)
PCT
Aroma 50mg ed 2 weeks then dropped to 10mg ed for the remaining 2 weeks
Clomid 100mg ed 3 weeks then 50mg for 1 week
I might run pct a little longer, I'm still undecided about it
And the dosages might change up top depending on how Im doing pinning ed.
Ok bro you are making me crazy with the way you are throwing things out there and just seeing what sticks. First off your PCT sucks. You try taking Aromasin at 50mgs a day and you will slam your estrogen. I mean fucked. You really need to take a couple steps back and do ALOT of research. Look at beginner cycles. I know you said you've done a few cycles but I seriously doubt they were done correctly. Just by reading what you've posted I believe your previous cycles were with a gym buddy that just sold you some stuff. Well you've definitely came to the right place to get straightened out. There are all walks of life here with many different goals in mind but the one goal we all have in common is to keep each other safe and healthy. There's nothing wrong with going back to the basics and scrapping everything you think you know. First off you really need to post up what your previous cycles were. Exactly what they were. What you took, duration, AI if there was any, PCT if there was any. All info on your cycles. Why? So we can get a full understanding of what you really know because what you've posted so far is telling me that you are working off of gym rat bro science. It's ok but now you need to educate yourself before you fuck yourself. If you have to run a cycle I'll give you one that's tried and true at the beginner level with a full lay out. AI and PCT included. This will give you time to do some reading hang here with the boys and mingle while you pick up some knowledge. I don't want to see anyone fuck them selves up because they didn't know. If you know and do it anyway well than its on you. A classic test run will give you solid gains and give you time to soak up some knowledge. If this is not something you're willing to do than I'm going to have to say good luck my man I hope you make good choices but I will not be part of it!
Thanks gear, checking out a few other places instead of running the blend, it was just a thought but like it seems to be clearly stated by a few individual is tried and true for now.
Good man! Put that shit on the back burner until you've got a full understanding of it....
I apoligize for not articulating enough, thats my bad and justifies the responses. Just trying to keep a low profile and put input in when needed. Kinda like the privacy and not posting to much out there. I think I messaged you gear but didn't get a response. No big deal just letting ya know.
Bro, I understand you're new at this. But it is the sharing that counts. That's how everybody learns. All of these threads become part of the site archive and can be searched and referenced and read now and 3 years from now. Yes there are certain things that may get exchanged in a PM - but secrecy is not what this is about at all . . . You know, this is a big site, and folks that comment here use roids for other sports beside just BB. Many of us compete and yeah, a couple of slip ups and some smart folks could figure out who we are. I think the site is artfully constructed, though, to protect anonymity in a very aggressive way.
Gear no need to apologize. I know what its like to write when your eyes are still half way open.... What i am looking into doing is switching from individual compounds to blending it and seeing how my body reacts to a cycle like that. I could easily dose each individually but for a 12 week run thats a boatload of gear and its something I've been pondering trying out. A little spendy but was just a thought.
If crazy is right and I'm only going to have to pin .5ml ed to get the desired dosage that was the answer i was looking for. Made sense just needed that clarification. Not trying to come across as a hardass or anything but I'm simply trying to educate myself in the whole "blends".
Bro, here is is Sunday and I'm trying to make my way before the gym closes at 8. I need some education from you. If been at this for 16 years and I have yet to used blended gear from a lab. Remind my old mind what the purpose is? Did the lab give it to you? No shame in that. As long as your review is honest. My lad is forever coming up with new concoctions and I'm gonna take time to write to the owner (who I like) and ask his staff chemist what in the heck is is doing with this stuff. The ratios are all wrong.
Gear, I haven't used it but thought it might be a little easier than pulling from three different vials if i had gone that route into one. But from the voices of the forum ill just stick with individual vials and Im scraping everything I thought I knew and starting over from scratch to learn the RIGHT way.
This is where I am seeking help. I am used to running everything separate where i control the dosages. So yes I do need to stop and take a look. I get that. Thats why my original posting clearly stated that i couldn't find anything on the dosing. In my introduction I also stated that I have running gear for awhile now but haven't switched over to a blend, thus attempting to find more information and also posting it under this forum. So while i clearly understand your not trying to be an ass a TYPICAL run would have been dosed test p 100 at 1.5 ml eod and tren at .75 eod. and sometimes throwing a little winny in the mix.I ran that for 12 weeks. I have been running different forms of cycles for the past 5 years now some have been orals some have been pining. Its pretty clear on how to dose, deffinately not rocket science so its not a standard dosing its a blend and as I said before i have never run a blend. And i said i have run tren in a cycle, not my FIRST cycle........
Take the time. Be articulate as you can with your cycle history and dosages and we'll go from there. And, don't embellish anything either. The folks on this site don't all have their sites set on becoming Mr. O. Finally, I don't like the lab's mixture anyways, I usually don't and your not gonna get directions on using that bottle from me at least.
I'm returning to this one. Why are we letting the lab make the decision on the ratios of compounds and in effect the dosing on this? Moreover, you don't have the cycle history to run this anyways IMHO. You included Tren in your first cycle bro? Are you open to discussing other options? I am not gonna recommend putting your body on a gram of gear / wk. for a SECOND CYCLE I owe you an apology bro. Sometimes I know I respond to these things if I can't sleep and it's in the wee hours of the morning and I read what you wrote and I just didn't take it all in, if you know what I mean. I just saw Test/Tren/Mast and some lab doing some blend and that's a standard cutter if there ever was one and I didn't realize you are just starting out until I re-read for the 3rd or 4th time what you wrote. We'll sort it out, but put the tri-blend bottle away for awhile.
The MODs are gonna come in here and think everyone on this thread has lost their mind, and, since you have never seen that, believe me when I tell you it can get ugly fast . . .
So to confirm with the 100/100/100 triblend I would do my standard 1.5ml ed injection. Thats what the plan was just wanted to confirm. And with it being a blend it would total out to 350ml of each pw totaling out at a combined 1050ml per week. Now i just need to find some blended jugs.... makes life easier. I haven't been able to find a carb cycle posting on here, does anyone have a handy link?? Just curious.
OK.... you need to stop a learn the labeling. In that triblend there is 100MG PER ML (at least I think there is, seems as though you aren't too sure about that either) of each of the 3 hormones. It is written as mg/ml. SO when you inject 1ml of that triblend you are injecting 100MG of prop, 100MG of Tren, AND 100MG of Mast. That 1ML would total 300MG of total hormone. NOW you say 1.5ML ED SOOO that would equate to 150MG of each hormone TOTALLING 450MG ED. 450MG ED equates to 3150MG PER week. (450mg x 7(days in the week)= 3150mg.
To get to that 1050MG per week mark you would inject 0.5ML ED totaling 150MG per day 50mg prop, 50mg tren and 50mg mast.
I am not trying to be an ass or anything but if you are having this much trouble just knowing how to dose maybe you should stop and do some research on that.
see thats where I need to learn about these triblends. My thought process behind it was if I am taking testp at .5 ed that only comes in at 350mg a week. and the same would go for the other compounds as well. So maybe its different if its an actual blend. I mean trust me if i could get by pining a tri at 1.5 eod id be happy as hell. Pining ed just makes me feel like a pin cushion.
When you run those short esters it's best for an ed pin to keep the levels from fluctuating. There are guys that pin eod but I think everyone will agree that ed pins are best. Just make sure you rotate injection sites. Glutes, delts, pecs, and quads. Use this link as a guide.
http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm
New, it is. I apologize, i thought that was just a known variable already. Thats my bad. So I'm guessing if its a 100/100/100 I would still shoot the 1.5ml per day. I was thinking about it today and realized i was an idiot.
If you shoot 1.5 ml ed that's way too damn much. That's 1050mgs of each per week. With those kind of doses you are going to fuck yourself up! If it were me and I insisted on running the triblend I would do .5 to .75 ed and couple that with 150 mg twice a week of test e. Get the test a little higher with a long ester. I don't know where Viking has been but he would point you in the right direction.
It sounds like 100mg tren 100mg mast 100mg test per ml/cc I've never seen any thing that wasn't labeled per ml/cc
Thanks gear, message sent
Pls send me the link to the lab/product whenever you get a chance. I think everybody has it right but a second pair of eyes isn't gonna hurt.
Bro, I can't figure out what's in the product. Feel free to send me a FR and a PM so I can go to the lab and see the stuff. U bought this already? I just stay away from blends cause of this problem. Sounds like 100/100/100 but I can't tell.
Ok lets try it like this. heres the cycle I'm thinking about running. .5mg tren/.5mg test/.5mg mast ed for 10-12 weeks. Now I can order all three separate and load all into one pin. OR buy a triblend. Maybe someone could message me so I'm not talking about sources in the open forum unless you guys are ok with that?? If ya message me Ill just tell you the source but then it might change this post from cycles to sources? Just trying to play by the rules here.
Well I wasn't so much looking for advice on exactly what to run but more about the dosage from running the triblend itself. Stats are 31 220 5'8" 15% roughly. Im just going to run a standard cut cycle. I have a endo body so carbs are so far from being my friend. Diets always the big concern but its in check. Ill be doing more cardio on the next run and cutting up. I can bulk without a cycle so I don't run bulks.
You need to post up some stat (age, weight, height, bf%) before we can give you any help. Also, what are your goals here?