posted Sat, 09/19/2015 - 09:58
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Tren cycle
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Hi
Got 4 cycles under my belt last one was test p npp winstrol
1 m82 88 kg 10% bf
Cycle goals is to put solid muscle and drop to 8% bf
Cycle :
Test e 500 mg/ml week 1--12
Dbol 20/30 mg ed week 1--4
Tren ace 100 mg eod week 5--8
Rip blend 150 (test p tren a mast p) 2ml eod w 9--12
Ai on hand when needed
Ecg 250 iu 2* per week from week 5/12
Cabasser 0.5 mg every 5 days week 5/12
Pct
Cloomid week 14--15 50 mg ed
Nolvadex 15/18 : 20 mg ed
Arromassin 15/18 :20 mg ed
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best tread I've read in a bit
Rustyhooker5-11.5in tall. 194pounds. Looks like this...so you're running gear to reach what goal?
Hahaha good one rusty
RustyhookerThat picture and stats, dude is Hella cut. So why run an over the top unmanageable bs cycle? Let's bloat up to finish skinny?????
How bout the op either figures out bulk or be real. It's disgusting to me that folks not interested in weight class competition just wanna be boney with gear.
yes it's sadly true. people who compete they have their reasons cause they're getting money and that's their job and their living but folks who doesn't even lift or eat they think that hoping on a cycle is gonna magically turn them into an arnold .
Can't see your shoulder
RustyhookerYOUR stats with matching picture. ...
What's your goal? Where you going with this cycle?
I would like to hear from any one over 40 who used tren just to know how long it took them to recover as
SwaySway mention hard shut down for over 40 using tren which something I didn't give much thought if I am honest but glad you mentioned that dude.
Nothing decided yet about my cycle but one thing for sure is I am dropping the rip blend from my cycle.
TheFlah 85 cycle suggestion is good alternative
Do you thing is good idea to add tren ace 50 mgs eod to that cycle like I said a lot of you guys against me using tren but this is just me looking at other alternatives so
Test 1-14 - 600 mgs weekly
Dbol 1--6. 40 mgs ed
Tren a 6--12. 50 mg eod
RustyhookerYou've been repeatedly told your cycle is missing matched bullshit! Yet, you're still adding tren to something that makes no damn sence. So why are you asking? You already made you mind up so are you here to just flip us off or waste our time?
Cut or bulk. No bullshit combos that never work.
My mind is not made up and I hope I am not wasting any one's time I never used tren before so I don't know if I can add it to a lean bulking cycle consisting of test and dbol that's why I asked for advice
RustyhookerI outweigh you by 15 pounds and am 6 inches shorter. That tell you much? Anything? Eat eat eat and dammit....eat!!!! At your height/stats you shouldn't even be pondering gear til 215 or more! Damn high school all natural fullbacks are 230-250 with less that 10% bf. NATURAL!
That tells fuck all I choose to stay at that wheight only now I decided to go up the scale so don't tell me I am not ready to Use gear I know my body and what's good for me you seem to critique every body new in the forum with no constructive criticism as for my pct it's proven to work fine it's called doctari pct in south Africa but that doesn't mean yours is crap like I said before I am in this forum to learn not to take your bullshit
RustyhookerYou know it all...so run it then. You posted for a cycle to be scrutinized. I don't hold hands nor do I give back rubs.
Find a prep coack, only costs $100+/hour. You get the shit free. Pay up sucka!! Lol
I run what the fuck I like you skinny fuck
RustyhookerPic up top is YOUR STATS. Not me.
As a 45 year old you shouldn't feel the need to start throwing out insults like that.
He think he's all that arrogant prick but yes you're right I shouldn't step down to his level .I really joined this forum to get help and learn but the response I got from him was crap I can take criticism but when some one start taking the piss on the misfortune of other I can't sit back and take it any way this will be my last post for good .I would genuinely thank the guys who were kind enough to take the time and respond to my queries
I think you need to re-read rustys reply a few times, the advice is in his comment. You just don't seem to be getting it for some reason.
Gona drop the tren this time and do a bulking cycle is it possible to use dbol as kick start and then again last four week of the cycle
Test e 1/12 750 mg/ week
Dbol 1/4 then 8/12 30 mg ed
Arimidex 1/12 not sure about dosage
Hcg week 4/12 500 iu weekly
Pct
Cloomid 14/15. 50 mg ed
Nolva and arromassin 15/18 20mg ed
Well done for dropping the tren. I'd personally not use dbol at the end like you have suggested, why not just use 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off for the duration of your cycle? At least you're liver will get a little break and at 2 weeks on part it's not really going to kick it's ass to begin with.
I don't pct but isn't clomid and nolva supposed to be run at the same time together? Why are you starting clomid then using nolva after, and why only 2 weeks of clomid?
RustyhookerDbol at end so he gains 10 pounds water...then freaks the eff out when he passes it all out first week pct.
That's interesting 2 on 2 off have you tried it your self and did it work fine for you gain wise ?
Pct done on my previous cycle after been recommended by a friend of mine and my recovery was fine as all my blood test come back fine I only limit the Clomid to 2 weeks as after that I start getting acne but this time I might go back to the usual Clomid / nolva protocol for 4 weeks with the addition of arromassin . I am not prone to gyno but I am going to use arrimidex from the start 0.5 mg every 5 days any thoughts on that .
RustyhookerYour friends pct....kick him in the dick. Just kick...him...
Hahahahah Man !! i was on the floor laughing my ass off. literally !! +1 that was a good one
Bet your ass stayed on the floor
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it says below- your real goal is too add size- no need for all these exotic blends and tren for that.
test-1-14- 600mgs
dbol-1-6- 40mgs ed
ai
pct
food.
Dude stay away from Tren... it's a bitch of a drug that has a hard shutdown for the 40+++ For what you are looking to achieve I'd do EQ400/TestE500 for 16 weeks with the dbol kicker... Steady/consistent gains.... The way your current cycle is laid out it is a cluster-fuck of long & short esters... Not the kumbaya of mixes.... Good luck broham.
i would +1 that if i could lol. Test and EQ actually did wonders for me. I shed probably 10lbs if not more of fat, (i was in decent shape but midsection needed work) got really lean and put about an inch on my arms, maybe more. all i know is, Test E, and EQ, was an easy cycle and i saw great results. if you he thinks Tren is gonna melt the fat while building lean mass, EQ does it and MAKES YOU eat, which sounds like what he needs to be doing.
Thanks dude that's the kind of reply most people stop and take notice did you run your EQ higher then your test
This is a mis match of compounds. Looks like a cutter just with dbol added......
Do you mean tren is not suitable for bulking or is it because I added the rip blend at the end of the cycle
Which a lot of people use for cuttings
Any suggestions?
The problem you have here stems back to your goal, which is why your cycle looks like a comp prep cut with dbol added.
Are you bulking or cutting? Why are you trying to get to 8% BF?
How odd is that...lol
As soon as you mention posting a pic and diet info the question always gets bypassed.
Love it or hate it....it's the truth!
How do I post a picture couldn't find attachments
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Open up your profile section and find the submit section and follow from there
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Get a pic posted up and let's see if your ready for Tren cycle and also an insight into your proposed diet to run along your mentioned cycle
RustyhookerSuper tall. 170 pounds. Bad cycle. What's your real goals?
. Age: 45Height: 1.86Weight: 87BF:
88kg =194 pounds simple maths
Sorry my mistake in my profile
1.82 194 pound
Real goal is to add size
Bf around 10% all year in the past I drop to 7%
I stayed lean all the time been training since my teen years very active person
Why is it a bad cycle is it to do with my current weight
Never done a bulking cycle in the past all cycle I've done were cutting cycle and I achieve very good results just at the moment I like to put more size .
Curious to hear your diet plan for adding mass while losing fat.
My TDEE is 3235 cal using the Harris Benedict formula which is my maintenance level so I never droppe below that unless I am cutting abviously for me to add wheight I need to increase my calories by 10/20% so cardually I will increase my calories intake to around 4000 calories in theory it should work to put muscle as you gradually increasing you calories .
As for my diet which is not decided at the moment
Will be
40% carbs or 45%
40%protein or 35%
20%fat
Basically moderate carbs protein and fat
I am new to bulking cycle so it's a learning process
For me I choose dbole for its anabolic property and the tren for its muscle building and fat loss property
Don't know if it's true or not as I belive it's your diet that dectate the outcome of your cycle but from my research regardind tren a lots of people say it has got fat loss property
Guys would like your thoughts about my cycle