posted Thu, 05/17/2012 - 07:28
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35 yo
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210 lbs
Im 4 weeks into my 1s Tren a run 100eod with 500mg test , so far so good ,lots of sides which Im ok with but any of you pros could explain why I get this flu like symptoms , high body temp and feel sick for roughtly 16hrs after every injection ??? by next day mid afternoon Im ready to go and feel 100% fine , also Im getting this itchy everywhere ,get the urge to scratch my self to the point of leaving rashes ..
is this an allergic reaction or what ? I got 4 more weeks so Im gonna ride it out.
thanks for the replies
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4 year old thread? Lol almost got me....
running tren will give you "night sweats" and i can attest to that. im also on my 3rd cycle but running tren for the first time at 150mg/ed. im not noticing any agressive behavior on my part, but to each its own. hopefully in a couple more weeks ill ramp up to 200mg/ed due to some 200mg/ml tren ace i was able to get ahold. like i said, every person is different. and i know a lot people are going to shit a brick when they read what i wrote and how much im taking, but I AM NOT PRONE TO GYNO. which i found out, from blood work. low prolactin and low progesteron. there you have it. would i have ever known if i never tried tren? nope. i have never had these scratches either. what you are probably getting is "test flu" and i only had that once. be careful, because it seems to me like you're getting the sides that i was praying not to get.
Here is a good read if you have not found it yet. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/trenbolone-how....
Tren can and will make you do some real asshole type things..Like beatn your mailman up cause he was late or pissing in the persons car next to you at walmart cause they looked at you funny!! Its crazy shit man becareful..Less is more
not me. im very calm when off roids, so me being on tren is pretty much ok. yes, i have noticed sometimes i get some "thoughts" but thats it. i keep it to myself and relax.
These are all the reasons why we preach to leave tren out of the mix untill a certain level of cycling history and compound usage is gained over a period of years.
Even seasoned pros will only use tren at 50mg ed sides affect everybody slightly differently some a lot lot worse than others, i know alot of people that have used tren once and never returned for another run they were affected with sides so bad,some people just cannot pin tren because it creates such a bad reaction at the pinning site causing massive swelling and infection like symtoms and like you say just ride it out,i personally dont see the point in this,find compounds that your body will accept and make gains comfortably in my opinion NPP is like trens little bro with very much the same results without horrendous sides that tren brings to the table,all the time in the world my man why suffer.
Less is more especially when you can feel comfortable in your day to day living.
You are exactly right. I tried Tren A, 1x at 50 mg eod/ 6 wks with test. Sometimes after my shot I would have to lay down b/c I felt like I was going to get sick. I haven't tried it again. I got great results, but just didn't like the feeling it gave me. Could it have been the brand, maybe??
I hope young guys take to heart what experienced people like yourself are saying.
It was pretty irresponsible to not know what the possible sides would be when taking Tren... I have read up on NPP and like you mention, maybe that will be more accepting with my body.
* Look great/ feel like Crap.............not worth it IMO
Exactly bro................. if not having to go to extremes for competition purposes we should be looking for the feel good factor........ Anabolics give this feeling, but when we start playing around with heavy DHTs (Androgens) or hefty 19s that feel good factor can swiftly change into horror stories.
I have Parabolan running right now for holding mass whilst dieting down, i will drop that at the end of april and switch to Methytrienolone...... thats when i start to feel like shit!.. but its a necessary evil unfortunately.
Would i consider running either if not planning to compete?............... would i fuck!!
300 SavageGreat reply bro.. (Less is more especially when you can feel comfortable in your day to day living. We should all be running this way!
Nice to see a guy deep researching in the archives............ some pearls hidden away in here bro
Def a lot of info on these forums.
I feel you , you are correct I thought about dropping the tren but most sides went away over the weekend specially the flu -like symptoms and the itchiness.all other sides Im fine with .thanks a lot
You nailed it bro. Less is definitely more. What good does it do you to run at a dosage that debilitates you. Proper rest and hydration are paramount in this business, both of which can be effected by Tren.
Guys most of the sides subsided not getting flu like symptoms any more and no more itchiness nor rashes , I guess my body adapted to it, now I'm really enjoying this cycle alpha male mode, strenght has gone up 40 to 50 lbs in major lifts, frankie told me the reason I was having t his itchiness and allergic reaction was due to the Ethyl oleate which has this side effect .
Good to hear bro. I was worried you were gonna have to drop the Tren mid cycle. The truth is, when using ugl sources anything could be the culprit. You might be able to add some cotton or grape seed oil if the EO rash persist. Might dilute it down a bit. Good luck bro.
I would think that is your body telling you to back off bro. I believe you say you are using 1750 mg of test and 350mg of tren a week? If what they say about Tren being 5 X more potent than test, then your Tren dose equals 1750mg of test. This is basically a total of 3500mg of test per week.
heathen, i've seen you say this in a few different posts recently ( http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/does-anyone-ev... ) and i have to correct you (in a nice way, of course). You aren't completely wrong, but tren and test are not the same compound. You can't turn it into the simple math of multiplying by 5, because it's apples and oranges. What you are confusing is the the fact that tren is 3-5 times more androgenic and anabolic than testosterone, not that 1mg of tren=5mg test.
Not getting chippy with you brother, just want to make sure our newbies are not being mis-informed
Hey bro...just gotta ask, what advice are you giving this fellow here since you say my is wrong? Please inform me if I am misinformed. That's why i'm here.
I'm not offering advice here. When I see our valued members like Viking already chiming in, there is no advice I could offer that is better. There are professionals on this board that enjoy taking on these kind of threads.
Re-read my message to you. I said you aren't completely wrong, it is just an out-dated, recycled way to look at tren dosing and tren as a compound in general. There was no value in the advice you added. sorry for hijacking this thread to whoever started it. Heathen, friend me to PM if you'd like to discuss further.. thanks
Im only running 500mg of test e .
You are correct and since I'm not on any Tren right now, we still cool. hahaha, different compounds they are indeed. From what I've gathered though the 1 to 5 ratio is good math to figure out your Tren dosage. Like if you run 2500mg of test a week, then 500mg of tren should do you right. Just seems like lately everyone is jumping on some tren and using it at insane dosages. I'm guessing some of this is happening due to dudes with bunk gear. Hence nothing bad happening at heavy dosage like beating down the mailman for being late.
the only guys running 2500mg test a week are on the cover of muscular development. with your equation, since I run 500mg test/week, that you're saying I should be on 100mg tren/week. I run 100mg tren ED with no sides.
Errrr, I used the insane 2500mg just because it made the math simple. My bad, that could mislead some folks. I am no expert, but from what I've learned, if you are running 500mg of test with good results. Then 1/5 of that or 100mg would be a good place to start off with Tren. Then of course work your way up to your own personal limit from there. Everyone has their own limit. Better to under dose yourself initially than to over dose. Specially with Tren from the horror stories I've read. Most I ever use is 225mg a week, 75mg eod. I'm also different than most of you on here as my dosgages are rather weak in comparison. I'm not trying to gain any more size or mass. Just strength and recovery time. All gaining more mass means to me is a larger opponent. Bad idea!
it is a good way to gauge sides! I use it!
Strength of compounds over one another is basically a relative term. If the functionality of the two is different, then it's hard to compare the two on a mg for mg basis. To me, Tren is a beast all on it's own. Running five times as much test as Tren per week does no equate for me. Your body responds differently, the sides are different, the efficacy is different. I've never really liked the term that Tren is simply 5 times stronger than test. Good post bro.
Maybe thats why some cattle cant stop swatting themselves with their tail!...LOL Seriously I dont put anything past what tren COULD do to you, its not made for human use! Also I have had those sides, feeling sick but I figured I wasnt consuming enough water!
The one thing I've come to learn about Tren is that everyone seems to react to it a little differently. I've personally reacted different to it from one cycle to the next, running the same source and dosage. ED injections definitely work way better for me. Keeps my aggressive urges way down. I'm currently running Tren A at 50mg ED and only have slight issues with insomnia and elevated body temp. At 75mg eod, the sides were worse. At 100mg eod, I was a trainwreak. You can use the experience of others as a base, but ultimately it's gonna come down to what fit you best. What works for me may not work for you, and vice versa.
Trens a hellava drug.
I just came across this article so basically the redness and hives I've been getting is another side effect.
One of the side effects that are caused by using Trenbolone is on the skin. Because the Trenbolone is injected into the skin it can cause irritations. It can cause hives, swelling and redness. It can also build up scar tissue and cause things like infections in that area. This is no different than the infections that heroin addicts get from frequent use of a needle. Other effects that it can have on the skin are things like developing an oily skin. It can also cause hair to grow more rapidly on the skin. Because of the effects that Trenbolone can have on the liver it can give your skin a yellow tinge to it.
Pinned yesterday afternoon and as of now not flu like symptoms. but the itchiness still present ...
1st let me say this is my opinion and everyone is different. You want to run your test @ a lower dose than tren. You want to run tren ED. I have never had a itch from tren. All that said the sides of tren are a bitch. I wake up in a pool of sweat, I have had conversations going on in my head, when I get mad I cant get over it,I sweat going to check the mail, and I feel sluggish sometimes but usually little carbs and I am good to go. As I get deep in a cycle the sides almost go away. I am at 10 weeks now and sweat(not bad anymore but more than normal) and prolong anger is only ones I can think of. Are you sure your eating/drinking enough? Do you think you feel worn out because you just blasted your body like you never had at the gym? Maybe you need to back off a little on dose but I bet going ED will take the edge off. The itching would stress me out more than anything. It would suck going around like you have poison ivy all the time.
The itchy feeling I get is mostly when I wake up , I scratch a few times and boom red rashes form for maybe an hour then it goes away?? Weird , I'm also getting the sides u just mentioned , having conversation on my head and get piss easy but that doesn't bother me as I keep reminding my self is the tren. I got 4 weeks left on this so might start pinning ed instead. Bro but I wake up in a really bad mood .lol no wonder ppl stay away from tren . But I would defintely run it again lol
AnonDefinitely..... EOD had me all over the place ED got me nice and stable. Well, as stable as you can be whilst on tren. You'll get used to pinning every morning before your shower lol... at least that's what I did.
atleast Im not missing any work outs.
Drop down to 50mg, sounds like your dosage might be a bit to high.
nah i feel the same when i get into higher tren dosages. i would have started at 50mg EOD and worked your way up. with tons of sides and flu-like symptoms, you're not doing yourself any favors staying at that dose brother