-1 Thoughts on Primo/anavar over tren a/mast when over 40
My first post in years of being a member. I have done numerous cycles in the past including both tren a and e. With all this crap going on I was trying to loose some body fat and keeping my gains without going the tren route being all the gyms are closed. I have a really good gym set up at home but can only really do high reps 18, 16, 14, 12 and 10 for each set and cardio.
My last cycle was
Test E @ 400 mg week --16 weeks
Tren E @ 800 mg week–14 weeks
EQ @ 800 mg week-- 14 weeks
HGH 4iu 5 days on 2 off 16 weeks
Arimidex eod
Normal PCT after week 18
Had super awesome results from it
My Stats
45
6’2”
264lbs as of today
Around 19% body fat
My diet will be super clean through out.
6 am Breakfast 6 hard boiled eggs
1 yogurt 51g protein 10g carbs
9:30am and 4:30pm 6oz chicken 1/2 cup rice 125grams - 22.5 carbs - 52grams protein Greek yogurt for fat
1pm and 8pm protein shake 50g protein, 2 tablespoons or natural peanut butter, 1 cup blueberries 2 tablespoons of Greek Yogurt 20gram of carbs
Supplements
L-caratine 1000 mgs every whole food meal
1 digestive enzyme every whole food meal
ALA twice a day
AST multivitamin 2 times a day
Fibermode before bed
The cycle I am thinking of
Week 1-16 400mg Test E
Week 1-16 600mg primo
Week 1-16 2iu morning 2iu night hgh 5days on 2 off
Week 8-16 60mg anavar ed
Week 1-16 20mcg of T3 for HGH ed
Week 1-16 clen 60mcg per day
Nolva 20mg ed
HCG 250iu 2 times a week
Or should I just go
Test P 75mg ed
Tren a at 75mg ed
Mast p 50mg everyday instead of Primo?
I’ve never done Primo before and with it being so mild and with the gyms closed I thought it would be a good time to try it
Thoughts and suggestions?
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You dumbasses need to stay away from t3 if you don’t have the slightest clue too what you’re doing! -1
I love primo and anavar, 2 of my favorite most underrated compounds. Nothing else gives my muscle that look this combo does. I just used both actually and looking foward to using it again. Less sides too. 600mg primo and 60 mgs var is great dose. You could even substitute var with winny both are awesome compounds. I used test/tren/mast stack as well but looked and felt better on primo and var. Matter of fact my avatar pic is when i used this combo end of summer and i wasn't really dieting as i do not compete.
I agree primo and var are amazing and very underrated. Currently on that test/tren/mast stack (first time using mast) and thinking about adding in some var in week 4 or so. Great results in your pic man.
Masteron is good but you must be very lean already to see the visual benefit otherwise its just acting as a anti estrogen. It definitely isn't a muscle builder but if your under 10% bf it'll give you a harder look. Thanks for the compliment bro.
Right now I’m on a trt so I won’t start the primo cycle for 7 more weeks. I’ve got all the gear for 16-18 weeks n very excited to see the results from it. I’ve done plenty of tren cycles in my life and don’t feel like going through the sweats, coughing and the end of the cycle depression especially now just turning 46 on the 22nd. I’ve still been able to maintain my size cause I have a really good home gym but lacking in legs stuff. To make up for it I’ve been mountain biking 15 miles every night. If I do lean down enough I might throw in Mast towards the end bit as for now I’m about 16% bf right now since I’ve been good in my diet having 7oz of chicken n 200grams of carbs with 6grams of fat for 6 meals a day. I think once I start the primo cycle I’m going to do Fouad’s carb cycling diet. As I get further into the cycle I will have 1 high carb day then 3 low carb days and cycle my diet like that. Towards the end I’ll go 5 low carb days. Low carb will be 100grams if carbs 5 times a day giving no carbs for breakfast and 29 grams of fats with 6oz of protein.
I'm in the 6% BF range. At one point I was right at 4.5%. I'm hoping to see some real hard dry gains.
Injection stanozolol is king for this
PcushionI would throw out the clen and the t3. I like your style utilizing the serm for estrogen control btw. I do the same when needed. I also believe primo should be run for longer than 16 weeks. Personally I like 6 months.
I think the "Golden Era" guys did that.... Long low mg cycles! Imagine living back in those days at the original Golds gym.
I am going to run it at 900mg per week primo/25g test e for 24 weeks as of now. This in Anavar after week 8 till the end and HGH at 4ius 5on 20mg ed. If keep seeing differences I will just continue after 24 weeks
Primo at 600mg/week for 6 months? Just wondering about it from a long term health aspect. Not saying you're wrong about it. Just asking if that's what you meant.
And I'm with you on the clen, but I react very poorly to even low doses (horrendous cramps). T3 I'd be cool with at 20mcg. But I'm biased because I've been on T3 replacement since my late 20's. Inherited trait though. Several members of my family have been diagnosed as hypo-thyroid.
PcushionHey brother no I didn’t mean run it at 600mg for six months I don’t run anymore than 400mg and typically hold that dose for six months. I just meant that in my body primo grows a very dense muscle that’s hard to achieve with any other steroid. During my primo runs weak parts become not so weak everything starts to even out but this takes longer than your average cycle. As for long term health aspects there aren’t any medical journals on this subject that I can find, but I do not for one minute think that running primo for six months is not having some adverse health effects. I will say my lab work will return and maintain its precycle parameters (for at least six months)on 150mg test and 400mg primo. FULL DISCLOSURE I AM NOT RECOMMENDING ANYONE RUN PRIMO OR ANY OTHER STEROID FOR THE SPAN OF TIME MENTIONED IN THIS POST.
Cool deal. I just wanted to make sure I understood what you meant. And I totally understand it's not a recommendation for anyone else and only what you do. I'm just curious but how does masteron treat you in comparison?
RustyhookerYou gotta be rich to run primo 6 months
PcushionNot rich you just have make sacrifices in other places. People will find a way to afford what’s important to them.
RustyhookerLol....ya....rich. 120 a bottle. 800mg-1bottle per week...thats 120 x 20 = $2400. Add in low test, maybe a dry oral, pct....you just bought a used car.
Anyone with 3k sacrificed...theyre making bank somewhere or another.
Pcushion$125 gets me primo 200. I don’t run anything at 400mg I don’t believe in that. I run primo at 400mg and a bottle last 5 weeks. If your not getting results off 400mg primo then it’s not real primo. No need for 800mg.
Yeah... I wish it was cheaper to run. Primo makes you look nice & clean on the body! Hey, What the heck happened to your karma? Is this a joke or real?
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/my-2-cents-on...
Not sure if you’ve read this but this guy knows what he’s talking about.
Great read thanks
Definitely skip the tren. Primo is great for cutting, better than tren at nitrogen retention you just won’t get the strength, hardness, or libido that tren brings. Which you don’t need right now anyway, as you said you’ll be doing high reps.
I’m not a huge fan of your diet layout. Also why clen and t3? They won’t make that much of an impact (unless the t3 is prescribed for you) and the problem isn’t the drugs. It’s the food.
You have zero vegetables. Try adding them to at least 4 meals. Also you’re getting 2/5 of your total protein from shakes. If you insist on that spread them out. 10 grams per hour. So if you make a 50 gram shake spread it over 5 hours. You can’t process 50 grams of whey in 30 minutes and the rest is going to turn into fat. Even better? Swap it for real food. You’re stuck at home so it’s not like you don’t have access to the fridge.
If you can, keep the rice in your two preworkout meals and up your fibrous carbs like veggies for the last two. Train between meal 3 and 4. Fasted cardio before breakfast.
That’s a good layout to cut. If you can’t get lean on test, primo, and gh then you have no business using any of the above. You got this bro just put in that work.
Yea I want to stay off tren till this is all over with and we are all back to normal.
With the primo is 600mg per week good or should I bump it to 800mg? Is my Test E good at 400mg per week? Should I pin EOD like tren? I’ve never done a primo cycle that’s why I ask. I’m just doing this to see how cut I can get while all the craziness is going on.
I can definitely skip on the shakes and do real food instead. All these years I never knew that about whey not being absorbed and turning to fat. I can definitely also add veggies in my diet.
I’m not like the rest of the world and have to go into work each day so I can’t train till after meal 4 at 4:30. I can do my cardio in the am before work. Do I still keep the rice in each meal including meal 4? I can definitely cut rice in my last meal and go veggies.
So the clen I can do with out? The reason for the low dose of T3 is that I was always told to run T3 with HGH.
Yes, clen literally kills your heart cells so unless you think that’s worth it I would cut it out.
You don’t need t3 with hgh. Sometimes you need t4 but only at high doses for a long time, 4 iu 5 on 2 off does not need it.
600 primo 400 test is fine, no need to bump the primo because you aren’t going to be lean enough to see the primo “look” just benefitting from the preserved muscle it brings. It can be pinned like any other enanthate ester, 2-3 times a week is what most people do. That’s the test level you used in the past and your AI was dialed in at that dose so I’d stick with what you know.
Thanks
This is good stuff! Exactly what I was looking for. I won’t be starting it for another 3 weeks. I will let you know how it went.
Is like to see the last meal
Eggwhites 2 whole eggs and cottage cheese with blueberries