posted Tue, 01/14/2020 - 18:42
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-3 Thoughts on my Cycle. First post here any advice welcome thanks!
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Hello to everyone at Eroids this is my first post here and I thought I'd seek out some advice from some more experienced bodybuilders and fitness folk.
- Test E 150mg x2/wk (prescription dose)
- Masteron 200mg x2/wk
12 week cycle planned.
PCT: - I plan to run a 10-15 day 500iu/ED HCG blast followed by 40/40/20/20/10 on Nolvadex.
I also eat healthy and run an on cycle support. I use Olympus Labs Arimacare Pro. Bloods are good.
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Read three posts from you. That was enough -2
Alphamale500I never got a look at whatever pic or pics other members were referring to when they said how bad you looked or whatever. Is it possible for me to get a look at those pics bro? I'm not being negative, I'm just trying to be helpful and honest. Which ever picture you're referencing to here:
"That picture was only months after being bed ridden."
I am officially done here. It's just a drain. "PTSD from being awake during a surgery? That’s your Xanax excuse?! Unless they were butchering your family during this surgery you were awake for, you need to man up." Like seriously I am not going to stand for that kind of shit.. who would. Like I am going to re live it and give you all the details.. yeah fucking right. Frankly I am following the advice of my doc who has the credentials and power lifting history to back it all up. I don't want any co signer period. I don't know what led to that misconception or negative rep for me just being transparent, constructive, and posting a pic.. if anything I was a little too honest and gave too much background. Thanks again to all of those who were actually mature or constructive. I hope everyone has a great new year regardless of who said what. Peace out.
Alphamale500What about my question right above where I asked if I could get a look at that picture of you, that you and some other members were talking about??? I never got an answer from you, and I haven't been a dick to you in any way!
AnonByyyeeeeee don't forget your shit..
RustyhookerTheres the door. B------------------>
Blah, blah, blah.
Get your ass in the gym.
'Everybody wanna be a Big ass Bodybuilder but nobody wanna lift no Big ass weight!!' ...
I've come here to be constructive and positive and that's all I'll do. Any posts that are off base I simply won't respond too. I changed gears to only 300T and 400Mast which hasn't fully loaded in yet. I feel good and I am dropping my pm dose 10mg/wk till I am off. I have a pic 1 week in with my first week lifting in aprox 1yr. Bash it or not it doesn't matter to me either way. I am damn proud of what I've overcome. I hope everyone had a nice day.
You don’t want constructive criticism. You want a co-signer. We gave you constructive criticism. It was just worded a little too harshly for your liking... but believe it or not it’s because we actually give a shit and don’t want you to fuck yourself up even more. Tough love, fucko.
I hope you can get off everything if you truly want to. And I hope you truly want to. But you never will with that attitude. Patting yourself on the back for what you’ve overcome? You’re still on a bunch of narcotics masking your issues. Until you can get off them you haven’t overcome shit.
You got a long way to go and I hope you see that.
And now you’re just adding more drugs...
When you start patting yourself on the back for taking a walk, you’ll never hit the ball.
Good luck. And as a former addict, I truly mean that.
I’m tapping out on this one.
Actually I love constructive criticism and tough love that's how I was brought up. I don't want a co signer whatsoever period. I have a PHD doc and family friend who was a former powerlifting champ guiding me through this all. I came here because I was just genuinely curious and I believe the Test/Mast advice was solid and I took that advice. Fucko? seriously haha.
I appreciate that. I sure do fucking pat myself on the back. I virtually lost all feeling below the waist after a surgery I was awake during. I prayed a lot with my church and whether it was an act of God or not I regained all that feeling completely. I knew I was good to go after banging my recent girl so good her legs shook . So yeah being bed ridden and wheel chaired through the airport to fucking again, doing 5ks, Tai Chi, martial arts, lifting weights again after PT and going way down on pain meds deserves a fucking pat on the back. What planet are you on?
You're right. I've got a ways to go, but I am 80% there. I've known former addicts and many of whom never had multiple operations on far heavier shit than me and never had one talk to me like you. One was an EMT who thought I should go on T. I appreciate that though. Good luck to you in life also. I am more than happy tapping out on this site. I appreciate the good folks, but I've got good solid people in my life that have my six and this is so beneath me. Later
RustyhookerYou sound like a crybaby. Sure youre not 18 there snowflake. Manthefuckup!
AnonThis whole post sets a bad example for others who live drug heavy lives and are inexperienced in the AAS field.
I'm not saying your struggle isn't legit, I'm saying you shouldn't advertise a compound heavy first cycle with the alleged backing of a "doctor" while on fucking heavy ass pain meds and a handful of Xanax.
You're inadvertently implying that is ok for anyone to do this because you've said a Dr said it's safe.
Absolutely none of this is SOP here.
No big first cycles.
No cycles without proper health
No cycles without a background of diet/exercise
I respect where you are coming from and I can assure you I had no intention of doing anything negative. I have been genuinely talking to a doctor about all of this who knows my history and helped me during a cycle once several years ago and was simply guiding me through another as the first he guided me through is what got me off a good deal of pain meds due to gaining basic support muscle. According to my docs I am on moderate doses, but I respect your vantage point.
Obviously you cycle didn’t work.
Quit whining and get in the gym.
That picture was only months after being bed ridden. Yes I used to have pain so bad it would cause black outs. I used to be on 6x the amount of pain meds and on Fentanyl to be exact. I've been tapering down and it's working. I have 3 different docs over seeing this process and one who knows everything I am on so everyone who is talking down fuck off. I found a good gf and FYI my only activity was sex and tai chi in that pic as I couldn't lift weights at that time. Hey DfromPhilly get the fuck out. I was a paralytic until 2013 when I was able to get help and feel everything below my waist again. I come from a hard ass military family and have an old best friend with the Gold star of Afghanistan. I am told I am tough as nails by people who would trump anything you ass hats have been through. You talk like this to some man who is desperately trying to claim his life back and is making progress albeit slow, You should all be ashamed to put someone like me down. I came here for constructive posts not to be put down. I have a psychiatrist and I also have a pain psych with a PHD whom is a former national power lifting champ and I going off his advice. I don't even know why I bothered posting here. For the few of you who were constructive thanks I really appreciate it.
Bud I know it may seem like some of the comments here are a bit harsh, but try to take the criticism in a constructive way and keep on fighting to get better and get out of this hole you are in. At least try to get down to half the level of pain and anxiety meds you are on then you'll be more clear headed to train and have more physical energy and strength in the gym. Then train natural for at least a year minimum - You are nowhere needing gear yet or in the kind of physical condition that warrants it. Enjoy having a natural endocrine system for the time being and not being reliant on the needle every other day - You'll be amazed what you can achieve with just a good diet and proper hard training :-))
It's all good. I really appreciate your perspective and you make great points. A part of me I'll admit wanted to just stay natty as my free T was a 15 in the worst possible circumstances after one breakup (no sleep, poor diet at the time) and I don't think it reflected my free T properly or total. I mentioned this to the doc, but he really did push Testosterone hard and thought the free T number was an anomaly. He is well thought of and I took his advice perhaps too soon. Anyway, I see your point and appreciate your post.
Saw your picture. You have no idea what the fuck your doing.
Step 1 lift weights for two or three years.
Step 2 eat a lot of protein and complex carbs
Step 3 forget everything you read on Reddit.
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Sorry but fuck off. I was in AAU and track in HS. I know the basics. I don't even read reddit you just assume. Thanks for the -2 haha.
If you know so much why do you look like that ?
Your full of shit - 2
Drop the Anavar
Drop the Sarms
The test and mast are plenty.
Thanks I appreciate it.
Yeah I just spoke with one of my docs. Sticking with the Test/Mast and dropping the others. It's hard for anyone to understand a 12 yr recovery and I feel I've already typed out enough. I do appreciate everyones advice and perspective. I've gotten the pain meds to a low dose and the T is something that's long been an issue and is being taken care of. As for the depression that is related to a rough breakup. I am all about natural solutions like epsom salts, cbd, turmeric, herbs ect. I am working on the right combinations and I am making progress overall. It'll all workout. Thanks
The only Dr you need to see is a psychiatrist.
Don’t run any gear. Harsh but I’m telling you right.
X2. This 12 year recovery is simply not trying to get better and masking symptoms with drugs.
Xanax for a shoulder injury 12 years ago... unless the shoulder was blown off in war and the Xanax is for PTSD there’s no excuse for that. And even then he’d at least be off the pain meds by now.
Have you seen his picture?
These guys think they can get jacked by running a cycle, it’s sad and dangerous.
He doesn’t look like he’s ever done a pushups.
Oh shit. No I just looked at it now (and his face evidently). Yikes...
Yea that just goes to show you test isn’t gonna do shit if you don’t do the basics right. Certainly doesn’t look like someone that’s been on AAS, or even work out at all really.
Well, to be frank, it looks just like it is... like he’s been on hard narcotics for the past 12 years... I hope he can get off that shit for his own sake. Doesn’t sound like he wants too tho.
Go ahead guys just team up and down talk my pic.. make yourselves feel a little better. I could care less. My girl was happy with the way I looked then and I think that's all that matters to me frankly. It's not bad for someone who's been through what I have and couldn't lift safely at the time. A lot of guys would be 80 pounds over weight easy. I never said anything about a shoulder injury. The actual cause of the pain is a cluster of nerves that pinched up against scar tissue and once left me with no feeling below the waist. This isn't some junkies 12yr recovery this has been a long tough process with multiple operations and multiple docs one who works at a well regarded hospital that know I need something for the pain. The xanax is for PTSD from being awake during an operation and to help rest and relax muscles at night. I only care about all my docs opinions and those I actually interact with in person. Have a good day
It’s not about talking down your pick dude. It’s about not doing AAS when you dont even work out. No one is gonna co-sign a cycle for a guy that doesn’t train or eat well. Especially not one on a bunch of narcotics.
You seem to have some issues man. You’re full of excuses and lazy. You want drugs to fix everything.
PTSD from being awake during a surgery? That’s your Xanax excuse?! Unless they were butchering your family during this surgery you were awake for, you need to man up.
I’d take a hard look at yourself in the mirror man. Honestly you just sound like a stereotypical millennial bitch that has an excuse for everything and doesn’t want to try at anything.
Take a look at your posts and tell me if that's truly constructive. I have a mother that lived on an air base whose father had command over the most powerful nukes in this country during the cold war. I have an Italian father from Staten Island who grew up around the mob and brought me up tough. I say this because I know the difference between someone busting someones chops to being a flat out douche bag. There are people on far more narcotics than me lifting out there.. I hit the gym, workout, do pt, spend thousands on massage and acupuncture, and do tai chi and martial arts everyday yet you call me lazy? Nah man sorry but you're off on that. it's just the lead got stuck during the surgery you see and I remember everyone freaking out and cursing. I lost nerve function from that at 18 and went from hanging out with friends to barely feeling my legs.. and I was awake from what caused it so get the flying fuck out. I could care less to anything you have to say. You have no place. Everyone in my actual life thinks I am A1. As in solid. I am done with this site because it's mostly negative. I could care less about my Karma rating or if I get banned. I got -4 for posting a pic.. I wonder if it would've been a -5 if I was obese.. This is all beneath me and a drain. I'll focus what brings me joy in life and that isn't this site. Peace. Much respect and thanks to those who were actual bros or cared enough to look out/support rather than put down as I often see here. Take care everyone I am done here.
Christ...
That's some weird shit, man.
I'm glad you're getting professional help.
Sounds good go somewhere where folks will lie to you.
Just remember when you fuck yourself up that Old Sam on eroids warned you.
At the very least skip the pill and go lift some weights followed by a meal.
That’s what you need...
Sayanora
So then ask your Dr what he thinks about your kitchen sink cycle.
You don’t even lift weights. All that’s going to do is fuck you up.
We don’t co-sign cycles and lie to people on this site out of pity...
You want to get in shape? Hit the gym, eat properly and revisit this in a couple years.
Even then a wise man starts with one compound . When it no longer works he adds another.
Your lazy and think you’ll get it out of a bottle...
Yeah I just had a phone call on Wednesday late aft. It went well. He thinks well of the cycle except to keep it at 500T, Mast, and Anavar w/o the sarms. After 2 weeks he wants me back at 300-350T. He has more experience than you in medicine and likely the weight room respectively. I do lift weights. I recently started. Good for you and I do hit the gym and do martial arts. Anyone who does martial arts knows it takes great discipline and is not lazy.
Wow your a handful. PTSD from being awake during surgery. Mobsters Gold stars 6 doctors and a girlfriend.
Goodluck.
3 docs. I stated the Gold star belongs to a close friend who has vouched for me. I know I am tough.
Thx. Same to you.
This is a bit all over the place. I wouldn't use HCG while on cycle though. But I like the Test/Mast combo.
The initial surgery was 12 years back at 18yrs, but there were some complications that arose later from a 2nd surgery. I am doing PT at a center that is used to working with injured professional athletes and have received the clear on weight lifting. I should have been more clear on that. That is where my bloods were drawn (221 total T, 15 Free T, all CBC, TSH, ect checked out). My GF and I at the time had a great life. I had no issues in the bedroom but low energy and mood. My doc wanted to do a long cycle(4-6m) of 300mg of T along with 250iu of hcg a day to maintain fertility as he put it. His intent was to use the T to help strengthen my muscle to get me off the pain meds. I find this too much and do it 3x a week. Going up to 500T was only an attempt to build muscle and fight the pain. My entire goal is to get off every damn med. I am not some junkie or aids patient. I used to lay in bed and blackout on repeat. The hospital here writes my pain meds. They once had me on muscle relaxers, xanax, and paid meds at once officially. I also had a thorough talk with the surgeon in the past and he claimed all lifting was fine. I am going through two docs on this cycle. One who is a former national champ masters powerlifter. He is the only one who actually knows of the Anavar,Mast, and sarms I won't lie. This is doctor supervised via telephone at this point weekly. I don't think many people here can honestly say they do tell every doc everything they do on a cycle. I personally wanted to drop back to 300 as I know I wouldn't need an AI or Masteron at that dose. I just unfortunately have some depression at that dose. Anyway with this info if you guys see anything that should be adjusted I am all ears.
RustyhookerMy doc wanted to do a long cycle(4-6m) of 300mg of T along with 250iu of hcg a day to maintain fertility as he put it
No he didnt....you want a cosigner. Youre in low t range. Go see your dr. Liars never prosper
I agree I am in the low T total range and middle Free from the use of pain meds. However, I can assure you I am not a liar with any of this. His method of this cycle was to help reduce my pain meds whilst taking care of the low T and allowing me to build muscle. That is no lie man I know when I speak the truth. Once I am off the pain meds he believes my T will restore itself to normal.
RustyhookerWhat you posted is already a cycle.....
Pain meds permanently destroy testosterones natural levels.
Here my turn.
BOOM!!!
AnonWell....I mean...OJ did pretty good..
Depends on how you look at it. Karma got him.
AnonTrue..and for the rest of his life I bet it was difficult finding aaaanyone who didn't know what he did, let alone convincing a woman to come home with you..but I suppose that's what hoes are for..
Alphamale500Lol!!
RustyhookerThanksgiving trimmins! Lol
The depression isn’t from the test dosed at 300. It’s from the pills man. No one has depression from superphysiological doses of test unless your E2 is all crazy.
That said I’m not giving any cycle advice here since You already have your mind made up. My advice would be don’t cycle until you get off the bullshit poison.
I recommend getting on suboxone and getting a doc who will taper you down to zero properly, or Just going thru the withdraw cold turkey and get the fuck off that poison. I dunno how to get off Xanax but I’d find out and do that too. Theyre both contributing to the depression.
You said you want to get off everything and that you’re not a junky... so get off everything. It’s as simple as that. You don’t need Xanax for a shoulder injury, and you could try CBD cream for the pain after you get the poison out of ur system.
Why the fuck are you on Xanax anyway? Shit if it’s anxiety you could try CBD for that too.
I’d be depressed too if I was slowly killing myself.
Alphamale500I'm not disagreeing with the advice you've given here. But this one statement of yours;
"so get off everything. It’s as simple as that", is somewhat unrealistic.
I mean, it's really not just as simple as that for everyone, or shit, even for hardly anyone! Especially when depression, PTSD, and all of these other factors are thrown in the mix, you know. I just wanted to point out that one thing. So many ppl have lost their lives fighting addiction, and it's not something that's you can just say "get off", it's as simple as that. I'm sure you realize this though. If it were that easy, millions of ppl wouldn't be losing their lives every year!