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third cycle which compounds?

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I run two bulk cycles only testosterone with good results. now I am 5 ' 9 '' 207 lbs at 15%. My goal is to cut the 8-9% without losing too much weight. Stay above 200 lbs if possible. I would use slow esters (eod pin is an issue) and use only 2 compounds. I'm thinking of Test cyp 500 + 500 EQ per week for 12 weeks but many tell me that EQ is not a good idea because a few results and problems with hematocrit and appetite. or Test Cyp 500 mg with 6-12 Anavar. ARIMIDEX 0.5 eod and hcg 500 a week. clomid + nolva PCT standard.
What do you think? Alternatives?

MedDx's picture

Test only like guys said below, along with a titrated cal/mac plan loaded with complex carbs with a low-glycemic index and lean animal protein.

An ideal hypothetical daily macros would be:

325/200-250/120 (p/c/f) too acknowledge a decrease in BF%. This plan could get you to 10-12%, in addition to some cardio and alternating lifting regimens of heavy and light weight. Definitely move the weight and tear the muscle....feel the burn!! Daily calories per Harris Benedict Equation factoring in maintenance and activity, maybe target 4-5K max. Find out which blood type you are and compare comparable foods that work well with your body. Cut carbs after 2 pm and stay steady with the lean meats.

How much weight have you put on since you have started cycling? Can you post an unidentifiable pic? Depending on your goals, I'd complete 2 more successful 1 compound cycles and really get to understand how estrogen works. I'd do this over the course of another 18-24 months.

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pumpingiron2016's picture

Thanks for the advice. I think I will run simple Test E or Cyp 500/600 week 1-12 and Var 7-13 40/50 die dosage will be enough? I need 200 or 300 cps (var 10mg) for better results?

Caeser's picture

"Look at the big brain on Brad"...LoL...Pulp Fiction reference...had to share it; when I saw your handle that's what came to mind...made me laugh. That's all I got...

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"Check out the big brain on Brett."

One of my favorites. I'm amazed it's still a subject of fervent debate whether he says Brad or Brett. I've always heard Brett and I still hear Brett.

Makwa's picture

Cutting is about diet and not necessarily the compounds. Stick with your test to help keep you in a positive nitro balance and be more concerned about your diet. Now if you get below your 8% and want to start imparting a different look, then you can start adding in certain compounds that will impart different looks to your physique. For 90% of the people cutting here though, a nice cycle of 500mg/wk of test is all that is needed.

giardap's picture

Hey Makwa,
what would you advise, at that sub10% level looking to drop further, for someone who has a tendency to bloat with test/carbs?

Makwa's picture

Advice on compounds or diet?

giardap's picture

Oh diet only dude
water cuts etc I am good with from my fighting days, but that sub 10% nutrition level/contest prep level is not my forté by any means
had a couple of mates ask me recently, they dont seem to suffer from hormone issues that I can tell, so think they are reacting to the carb type or hidden sodium or something...

Makwa's picture

FR sent

giardap's picture

Cheers dude, ping'd you there

vhman's picture

You could just keep using test only and dial in your diet and easily achieve your goal.

irongame427's picture

id kill to have something supressing my appetite right now cutting between cycles. anavar would be great. It seems when its bulking season my appetite is just moderate and as soon as i put limitations on what i can eat and when and how much my appetite goes crazy. 2500 cals just isnt doing it buts its whats necessary to lose fat.

giardap's picture

Fat is the Mac Daddy for suppressing the appetite!

giardap's picture

bulk cycle eh? = load of bollox

food is the answer to your question
You should learn about cyclical bulking for next time

Dacky's picture

Hello fella. Pls update your stats. As to your cycle would stay away from the EQ. It's not a great compound for cutting and it needs to be run for at least 16 weeks never mind the sides that may need management which you have already mentioned.

I would stick with just Test C at 500mg EW and work that diet plus cardio output to get you down to that 8/9%. I would have the anavar in reserve and if you have really gotten that BF low enough with 4 to 6 weeks to go then consider adding it in at 40mg ED. Cutting up to that level is all about diet, commitment, consistency and training. The AAS are really secondary. AI dosing is fine if thats what you need with 500mg Test C per week - as this is your third cycle I would say you should have this dialled in and confirmed by bloodwork. Standard PCT is fine for this cycle.