posted Mon, 06/18/2012 - 12:05
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Thinking of this first cycle...
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IM 36/ 240LBS / 77"
Test E:500mg Weeks 1-10
Var: 50mg Weeks 6-10
HCG: 500iu's/week Weeks 4-12
Arimidex: .5mgs/day Weeks 1-12
Nolv: 40mg Weeks 12-14 and 20mg Weeks 15-16
Need to know what gains to expect and is it worthy of a first cycle.
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Thanks guys! What is the ideal BF to start the cycle. I need to set the right goal.
zewi13% usually I say 12% but you’re a big guy..
13% or lower will be golden, stay with the diet 3 months cardio and work hard in the gym you will be down to 13% in no time--start your cycle and you will blow up Just keep your diet clean..
IMO dont run this cycle at 19% bf like the guys have pointed out the compounds will not magically melt that fat away.. that will be your job manipulating carbs and getting the training right..imo here the drugs will be a waste of money do your self a favour and do this thing the right way.
zewiI agree with Viking--Change your Diet for the next 3 months work hard eat right and you should be good to go. You’re already in good shape you just need to get your Diet down. Once you do that when you start your cycle you will get the most out of it, and everything you are looking to gain will be possible.
Thats the answr right there!good prep now will pay back ten fold.
Man I got it I have a good diet going. I am naturally a big guy. I am not fat at all. My neck is 18.5" and waist is 38". All I need is more strenght. The army tape test sucks so it says I am at 19% BF but I feel as though I am at 16%, which i think is good.
So your saying no need for VAR? What about some winny towards the end to burn off fat?
juiceinatorShit doesn't work like that. You know what does? Diet. That's better than any brand of winny out there.
between this site and the other sites I go on, theres at least one guy a day that thinks steroids are gonna make you loose weight! and 90% of them think winny and tren will do it! Learn how to eat! thats why I posted it below but I guess that wasnt the answer he was looking for!
juiceinatorWell.. Don't drugs fix everything? This is America right ;) gotta try the easy way out and make sure it doesn't work first.
Nope, seems like its a global thing...just chuck an extra tab here an there to do this an that instead of prepping meals and making sacrifices at family functions!! I'm from Aus and its the same everywhere!! Not saying this guy might be thinking that way but I've seen everyone wanting winny or clen or something so they can shred....pretty sure the gyms have more equipment than just weights....
first and formost skip the steroids if your in the military, testing these days is cheap and easy and done through urine. Next thing is your BF% is pretty high to be cycling, you would be much better off dropping it down. its easy to do, the chow hall gots lots of choices, cut the carbs after 2 PM and stick to good protiens such as red meat, chicken, fish, Etc...When you do run a cycle it should be test only, your receptors are fresh and theres no need to stack stuff you will respond well to just test.
BF = 19% and I am in the military working out sometimes twice a day. Not worried about Test nor Var. Just wondering if it is enough for strenght and mass. I have been working out for 10 yrs now and feel at my age that I need a boost.
Two things that will boost you best right now if lowering bf %. Estrogen is higher when ya carry more bf.. And when your bf is lower you'll dramatically see gains. Just like looking at bodybuilding pix before and after. After just stands out because the visable muscle. And the mental boost you'll get when you're leaner. Test slowly drops as we age so if you get the bf down....muscling up would be a good one two punch. Dropping any bad carbs and try to hit stairmasters or jog after your workouts. The muscle workout Burn saved carbs and cardio after forces stored fat burn.
Whats your bf and exercise experience? Usually first run is test only so if theres any issues you're not wondering if its the test or var.