posted Tue, 09/11/2012 - 16:47
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Thinking about Tren + Prop -EDIT- NPP+Test P
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EDIT: scroll for current cycle NPP and TEST P
Hello, Found a cycle, changed it up a bit. Would like some help/input
goal: gain plus maintain
height: 6ft
weight: 190
cycles before: 2
why i cant keep weight: broke my hand one cycle, another pct was bunk, and had a very physical job that would rob me calories/desire.
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This will be my new cycle. Any new advice?
Cycle
Weeks 1-12 Test Prop 150mg EOD
Weeks 1-10 NPP 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-12 ADEX .25 E3D
SERM Treatment Starting 7 days after last shot of Test Prop
4 Weeks Clomid 100/100/50/50
4 weeks Nolvadex (40/40/20/20)
4-6 weeks AI Exemestane 12.5mg ED
2 months after last injection T-3 low dosage tampered for 3 weeks.
saw plametto through out the whole cycle.
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For what you already got your cycle fixed for you yesterday?
Because i would like more than one opinion on the new cycle. Also i added a few things, trying to fine tune it, if you will. thanks!
Drop the var. your pct still sucks follow what I outlined below.
Alright. I was using the var for the bloat. since i dont really have access to adex. But i guess If i am buying HCG from a different source, I'll go ahead and get adex.
Is HCG even that necessary for this cycle though?
and for the serm. This better?
4 Weeks Clomid 100/100/50/50
4 weeks Nolvadex (40/40/20/20)
Who told you var is for bloat ??? or have you read it somewhere.
No where and from no one. I would use it to reduce water retention. which i would assume would help the bloating out. I have used var before. I never had problems with bloating before. I put anavar in the cycle because the source didnt have any adex. But i took it out of the cycle and am currently looking for another source.
Be careful bro and plan and double check everything before you cycle again,i have a gut feeling you are well unprepared for what you are about to undertake... be very very careful i dont want to see you enter shitstreet.com.
cdaddy7He really needs to go with Roid Noid's plan but he's not exactly wanting to listen and its apparent after the var comments he does not know his compounds
Hes been a member for over a year,i thought he would be a lot sharper than this! i can see the effort thats gone into this thread i just hope he learned something from it bro.
what are you talking about..... i am going with his plan?
cdaddy7That below is not his plan...If you have changed your mind it's not in your post or in the thread or I or Vike would have seen it
This will be my new cycle. Any new advice?
Cycle
Weeks 1-12 Test Prop 150mg EOD
Weeks 1-10 NPP 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-12 ADEX .25 E3D
SERM Treatment Starting 7 days after last shot of Test Prop
4 Weeks Clomid 100/100/50/50
4 weeks Nolvadex (40/40/20/20)
4-6 weeks AI Exemestane 12.5mg ED
2 months after last injection T-3 low dosage tampered for 3 weeks.
saw plametto through out the whole cycle.
cdaddy7You compare and tell me if they are the same and I'm not talking about PCT I saw that change
Roid Noid's Advice
it should look like this
1-8 test-p 100mg/d
1-8 Npp75mg/d
adex for that bloat, .25EOD
caber .5 E3D
8.5-12.5 PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20
8.5-12.5 Clomid 100/100/50/50
1-8 Hcg 500iu/w E3.5
you can extend it to week 10 if you want but 8 would suffice.
Anavar is in no way like or a replacement for your ai. You need to read up on your compounds before you cycle IMO
cdaddy7Var is not for bloat either....no HCG needed bc cycle is short unless u have prior natty kickstart issues....use arimidex on cycle .25 e3d and u will b fine
thanks! I usually have a hard time keeping my gains. thats why i was thinking of HCG. Thanks for the reply. I will edit my post with the new information.
cdaddy7TREN=TEN CYCLES UNDER YOUR BELT NOT 2 YOU ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE
Check my EDIT! Thanks!
cdaddy7Just making sure bro bc I see this all the time and when i see the word Tren It's an auto response
Bro dont run tren its way to early for that when you can make great gains off simple cycles. run npp in place of tren, its a good compound that you will make great weight gain with if your diet is right. I havent been in the cycle section that much lately but I dont recall any Hcg protocol like that. im pretty sure its just 250iu every 3.5 days and theres no blast phase before PCT that im aware of.
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I am always quick to pull the tren trigger. My cycle earlier this year I decided to go with Test prop/NPP! 6 weeks in I had already jumped from 192lbs to 208lbs a 100mg prop/ED & 100mg NPP/eod. My strength gains were very nice! My libido was not effected because I was able to keep everything balanced by using test prop. I am in total agreement with roidnoid here. NPP is a much better choice for you brother! Some ppl complain of libido issues with nandrolone. Some of water retention but it's all things that you have control over. Keep your water retention to a minimum by running the proper AI and anti-progesterone. I prefer aromasin at 12.5mg/eod -e3d. Also caber incorporated @ .25mg (that's point two five, not twenty five) eod-e3d. This will help control the sides and water. Again you'll make excellent gains with NPP. It's a great compound. Tren is uneccesary and risky.
Noid, I just realized I replied to your post and not the original poster.
SO substitute tren for NPP? Keep the hcg or drop it?>
Hcg is your choice bro, but a big fat yes on NPP over tren. If you do run the Hcg get it dialed in first cause your way off.
Alright well thank you. I am looking to make pretty good gains and keep what i make. I have been on deca before and thought it was alright. A lot of bloating. And eventually lost what i gained. Never heard of NPP, till recently.
it should look like this
1-8 test-p 100mg/d
1-8 Npp75mg/d
adex for that bloat, .25EOD
caber .5 E3D
8.5-12.5 PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20
8.5-12.5 Clomid 100/100/50/50
1-8 Hcg 500iu/w E3.5
you can extend it to week 10 if you want but 8 would suffice.
***PERFECT SHORT ESTER RUN!..CANNOT FAIL TO RESULT FROM THIS... PCT INCLUDED!..WHAT MORE COULD HE ASK FOR!
NICE WORK BROTHER!***
Check my EDIT! Thanks!
cdaddy7Is that not your post?
"This will be my new cycle. Any new advice?"
Roid Noid is giving u ADVICE, but bc It's not what u want to hear or basically co-sign ur bullshit then you want to post "Check my EDIT! Thanks!" If you was goin to go on ahead and do what the hell u wanted to....why did you even make a statement of "Any new advice?". Good luck with that...by the way, u need to look very close at your PCT plan thats my advice
I am very confused by this post. I took his excellent advice and made a whole new cycle from what he said.. I replied saying check the edit, because it had what he suggested in it? Thanks for your advice.
cdaddy7Yes u did but not the way Roid Noid mapped it out....you do not need HCG for such a short cycle unless u have had an issue with natty kickstart
This is a great cycle right here. Much better than the tren cycle you originally posted op
Check my EDIT! thanks!
Your pct is still messed up. Run the nolva and clomid together. And I strongly suggest running either noids cycle or prop at 150eod and npp at 100eod, not each at 100eod. That's a potential recipe for disaster as well as not getting a full benefit of really either compound.
Okay thanks! appreciate the input!
Bro, tren is NOT a novice compound
Check my EDIT! Thanks!
Have you researched caber? Might be what the prostate doc ordered
Bro have a MOD fix pts... New phone LOL
fixed brother..i gave him +3 that should make him smile lol
Lol. I hear ya. Im not sure how the pt system works but I'm here because I learn every day and some times have an opertunity to shed some light.