posted Mon, 10/17/2011 - 11:52
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The best end to the cycle?
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I'm into the last third of a 12 week Test E cycle, running 600mg a week, split monday/thursday. The plan was to just do 12 weeks of this, then start pct two weeks after last jab. However, I'm keen to get the best out of this 1st cycle, and have been enjoying it so:
1) Should I run Test Prop for the two weeks before PCT, to get the most out of it?
2) what dosage? Same as the Test E, or tapering down?
Also, I should be off work for those two weeks of Prop, if I decide to go that route, so could really end my cycle well.
All thoughts and suggestions greatly appreciated!
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Nice! Glad to hear that. I'm having the same experience with some test cyp.
tread-mYes and you should be on a good amount of pottasium anyway. If I neglect a few day my muscles having been on gear so long start to knot and ball and cramp like crazy. I mea n go into a cramp that gets so hard it drops you to the ground! Hams and lats the absolute worst for me. Another quick help on hard k not cramps is pickle juice. Picked that up from a few big competitors and have it handy during leg workouts and lat workouts since I'm prone to cramp and a good swig will help shut down the cramps. Sounded like bs but it works for me. Of course even if getting proper potassiun it will happen and there is no substitute for deep tissue massage to prevent muscles from getting too balled up.....alright dont wa nt to steel a thread but questions here basically covered so.....
Let me know what you think
Lixus?
tread-mAgree with all....load and close with prop for my taste. The blood pressure for most can be handled with cardio, even if you end up needing to run 2 a days. Have to control that for your health at all times. I would say take your omega 3 fish oil every day as well for heart and cardio health in general.....we dont talk near enough about the importance of BP.
AAS-KINGthe gains from mast (any dht imo) are really really good ,they are dry and lean and it brings out some really good pumps ,i used winny at 100mgs every day @ 8% body fat and it had me in the best looking shape of my life .....
mast takes that little bit longer to work ( around 4 days longer than none ester winny) but the sides of mast are not as much as winny (for me anyway)
Do you guys think doing the prop and mast prop on a 1st cycle might be overkill? BTW this was a great question, Majik.
AAS-KINGimoit wilbe fine to end with prop and mast ...
first cycle is recomended test only to see if any sides occur but by the time your adding the prop and mast(around week 10) any sides from the test should have been seen so once mast is added if any sides are seen you wil know its the mast not test ...
AGREED! any (test) symptoms to arise would already be known... t prop is STILL test so any NEW symptoms would be the Mast...
running t prop and mast will give a "harder" look
you could run t prop and stanz for a "drier" look
All depends upon ur goals
AAS-KINGx2 but i find mast and winny very very simalr ,themboth being a dht steroid they give that hard/dry/lean look and both are great when used at a low body fat ,i fond winny is a little more harsh on sides like dry joints/high cholestrol and bloodpreasurebut for me both give very simlar gains ...
also winny inject haveing no ester means you have to inject every day while mast prop you can get away with eod and also mast prop is not as painfull as the dreded warter based winny ..
Probably want to start PCT sooner, right? A week or so after stopping prop?
AAS-KINGimo 2-3 days after stopping the prop esters you would start pct ...
agree
Oh no, an Ole Miss fan... ;)
Thanks!
AAS-KINGi like to end cycle with shorts esters too ,
200mgs prop eod and 150mgs mast prop eod the last 2 weeks of cycle and the two weeks while you wait for the enanthate esterto clear
weeks 1-12 500mfs test e per week
weeks 10-14 200mgs test prop eod
weeks 10-14 150mgs mast prop eod
Bro, I am a HUGE proponent of the prop taper (hell, I just LOVE prop!) but it really does make for an easier transition to PCT (crash for 2-3wks or crash for 3-4 days?... no brainer)
75-100 eod should work just fine (even though I look for ANY excuse to run 100-150 ed but that's me)