posted Mon, 10/01/2012 - 10:42
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Test/masteron/Var cycle.
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Hello all,
I'm getting ready to start my winter cycle, mostly going to be a lean bulk and strength cycle. Will be as follows
1-12 test enth 635 wk
1-12 masteron enth 400wk
4-12 Anavar 75mg per day
I've also been running Rips at 4iu's per day and will continue to.
Pct will ber 2 weeks after last pin consisting of an hcg blast of 1000iu's EOD for 10 days and then clomid at 50/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/40/20/20
Stats:
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6'2"
218lbs
10-11% BF.
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No kicker ??? i would be looking at 100mg prop ED for first 4wks also i would swap the var for a prop taper... but like brother juice says lets see what your previous runs consisted of.
As far as previous cycles, i've been using aas for about 10 years, i've been on every and any cycle you can think of, tren, deca, npp. This is the first cycle i've ran in a while that does not have tren in it, but tren really hurts my cardio, even at low intesity. i usually run 2 cyces a year but ever once in a while i run just a test only cycle except this time i'm throwing in some mass. My diet is sopt on.
I'm not a fan of kickers or tapers, 90% of the time i use short esthers anyways but giving my body a rest fro all the pinning this time.
intersting concept Juice has here at the end bu running a low does test and upping the masteron. thats how i run my tren.....way higher than test.
And this exact reason is why I prefer high dose mast or primo. Tren is very effective. No doubt about it. But to get a similar look with a compound with much less sides I find very appealing nowadays.
And I would neverrrr swap var for prop at the end. in connection yes, interchange nope nope
Lean BULK in my world is just that..not a half assed cutter.
Bulk comes from food and gear. You can most certainly put on nice quality lean muscle with var mast and test.
Fuck the kicker. I got a nice layout for this cycle, especially if he wants to tighten up more at the end which it looks like.
What you thinking a big E frontload if not he could lose a third of his cycle time.
Longer cycle. Mast e is run too short. No need to jump the gun, run it 14-16 weeks then I see no need to run prop out the gate. And depending on his natural test levels, I have a friend his age who just hopped on cyp for the first time ever and a week and a half later is telling me he's getting random boners all the time and shit. Now this guy knows jack about steroids. I think we may be overthinking the amount of time test e actually takes to make even a slight impact on the body physiologically.
Now your making sense to me with the longer run .. i agree that would be more my style as you well know
I'd like to see some previous cycles, but my preference here would be
Test 1-8 650-700
Mast e 1-8 400
Test 8-16 350
Mast e 8-16 700
Var 8-16 75mg a day.
A twelve week run on 300mg mast e is about as effective as running primo for 8 weeks at 200mg. Just completely losing the positive effects of it. The increase in mast later in the cycle will not only harden up a lot, but will provide a lot of strength gains with the var combo. This is a solid cycle here. I'd personally do it no other way. Shit, honestly this is a nice simple cycle that I myself would even run as a more mild cycle. Like I said, the longevity of the cycle is what will make it more effective along with the diet. Could also swap out the var for tbol if not looking for that var crispness and a bit more strength gain.
Nice work!
Juice doesn't come out to play unless he sees something interesting
Yep i like that bro... that would do a good job for him like you say i personally would go a different route as a bulker to me is a balls to the wall full blast affair not wanting to finish sharp as the cutter run would see to that... dont get me wrong i dont like to go over 14% even on a banzai bulker ... but for me there is no inbetween its either bulk or cut the british way.
US boys have been experimenting differently lately.. Friend of mine put on 60 pounds (no lie 60 pounds) post show on gh, 1500 mast e, and 300 test a week and stayed lean the whole entire time. Oh, that was in less than 6 months too.
Sounds good brother thats some serious fucking weight gain lol... i am quite happy these days to either gain a good solid couple of lbs or like i have just done drop 6% bf but maintained my start weight which to me is pretty extreme at this age.
And i just pulled a karma point from somewhere, thats the first fucking one since ive been a mod lol...there is a god.
60lbs - Wow.
Masteron is not a compound I know my stuff about. Will have to look you up and pick your brains.
Add me. I love mast. Most underrated steroid out there.
i agree, you don't here about many people running it but i love using it in cycles, you almost don't need an AI while using it and it seems to bring out the outher iols in your cycle.
What's the highest dose you've run? I was being a little conservative on the 700mg a week, my friend is Doug fantastic on 900 a week, noticed improvement from the 600 he was running before. Overall I think the higher dosed test will give you a nice kick in the beginning of the cycle while waiting for the long estered mast to really do what it's capable of. Even at 900 with 350mg test that's a total of 1.25g injectables a week which I consider pretty mild for someone who's been running aas for a while. Some people, even yourself may insider that on the high end but I think 1.2g injects is pretty fair for most people who have run more than 4 or 5 cycles, considering a compound like eq which I've come to take less of a liking in comparison to mast as of late should realistically be run at at least 600 for reasonable effects, imo ideally 900.
600 was the highest, seems that about 275-300 of prop with 525-550 is my sweet spot. throw in about 525 of masteron with those two and it's the best cycle i've ever ran.
Ya errrd! I'm feeling everything you just wrote glad to see some real shit being thrown around.
Well now we finally have a fucking cycle I'm interested in and is more up my alley/expertise. Once I bumped my best friends dose of mast up for nationals he said he got harder, tighter, fuller and stronger all one week later. That to me is a lean bulk. Eq to me is a base drug, something to run alongside test for longer gains with compounds rotated. When nitti eventually posts up his cycle you'll see what I mean.
You mean a long Test and Eq base with a bunch of shorts in rotation? I did that with Tren ace last cycle. It was the best cycle I've ever run.
Have nitti pm you his blast. But yea pretty much. It's my preferred way of running blasts unless I want to bust down doors then I take it back to basics.
I'm Jonesing for an old fashioned bulker like I used to run, been on a cutting regimen for too long. I miss me some drol!
Gotta be some from time to time. If I can't get my dbol gonna go with drol.
Previous cycles? I like but I'd change a couple things personally.
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