posted Fri, 05/04/2012 - 21:07
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Test/EQ/Deca
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hey guys what do you think of this cycle?
Going for lean mass / bulk
2 test cycles under my belt and training for 4 years. 6'2 and 93kg bf 11%
Weeks 1-2 EQ 800mg + deca 300mg per week
Weeks 3-10 Test E 600mg + EQ 600mg + deca 300mg per week
Weeks 10-12 Test E 600mg per week
Hcg 250iu monday and thursday throughout cycle
aromasin 12.5mg ED throughout cycle (adjust accordingly)
Caber + Letro on hand.
PCT 2 weeks after last pin
Torem 120/60/60/60
Clomid 50/50/50/50
all opinions welcome
thanks
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cdaddy7Uncle zewi is on the money with that one. I def prefer eq over deca bc the gains are more quality and the bonus is lesser sides for me. I like the prop front loaded and back loaded and i assure u the lady will appreciate the libido it brings with it!!
zewithink you should just stick with Test and EQ. And you don't need to blast EQ up front the appetite will be there. IMO i never liked Deca Eq is better..Here are two just for you Uncle zewi cares.
1-16 Test E @ 500mg (or higher up to you)
1-14 EQ @ 400mg (or higher up to you
PCT 15 days after last test e shot.
or
1-4 Test P @ 100mg eod
1-14 Test E @ 500mg (or higher up to you)
1-14 EQ @ 400mg (or higher up to you
15-18 Test P @ 100mg eod
pct 3 days after last test p shot.
tread-mDaaaaaamn! I've been hungry for new meat but diggin up a 3 month old thread and doing a full write up, just need the practice? Lol
zewiMy bad the wife.just gave me a great bj my blood.is not in the right head yet.. lol my bad
tread-mThat explains the end where you wrote "right there baby, that's the stuff". I thought , "well that's weird then you edited it and of course now explained so I get it! Was that her that typed "doh" or you? That was weird too...lol
zewiLol..Shhh I'm doh uuuuuuu
Anonfrontloading eq does help had a friend that did it and he noticed appetite increase by the end of the second week and vascularity by the third week. it definitely speeds things up. i am getting ready to run a low test e with my eq slightly higher to avoid the sides of higher test doses which seem to affect me. i will be running 300mg per week of test e and 600mg per week of eq maybe even 800 if i can get my hands on another vial of eq400. i'm anxious to see how you do keep us posted bro and yes only add one compound at a time. run two or three cycles with test and one other compound before you try running three things at once. best of luck!!!
As said below one new compound at a time! pick one of them and then we can line you out on how to run them, as it stands both the deca and the EQ as you have it are wrong and should be corrected to make this cycle work better.
tread-mJUST NEED TO ADD ONE COMPOUND AT A TIME BROTHER...Learn your compounds and how they impact your specific situation and body. Properly learning them one at a time in addition to your original test base is a powerful tool as you move forward.
I might say roll the Eq here with your test and eat huge and very clean with proper carbs to goal and then go deep on the carb work in the final 4 of a longer cycle. No hurries here just enjoy it.
Thanks for the responses: reason why weeks 1-2 have no test is because I was thinking that because neither the eq nor deca kick in for at least 4 weeks this way I was assuming everything would be kicking in at the same time and that way I can finish them both 2 weeks before the test to let them clear before pct. basically I want my hpta to be shut down for as little time as possible. What do you think my safest options would be? I would prefer to run prop NPP and bold ace for 10 weeks but worried about flu symptoms from the bold ace.
dbolztest -e is right this way your libido will be shot till week 5-6. If you are going to frontload eq you would have to frontload your test as well.
Best do weeks 1-10 the same you would run week 3-10. Also frontloading the eq at 800mg will make no difference than 600mg. Id say stick with 600mg. You will be loosing your breath in this stack are you ready for that? Have you run deca or eq in the past? If not then run one or the other not both. Test and EQ at 600mg is a nice stack that will give some lean mass.
I would also add aromasin 6.25mg eod throughout your pct
+3 brother but im confused as to why you would say that you need to frontload test-e with EQ?
dbolzI have frontloaded the eq once at 1.2g for 2 weeks and it affected my libido, there is such thing as eq dick
it just not as bad as deca dick.
interesting never heard of it! I even read cycles of guys running EQ much higher then test with no problems! good to know thanks!
dbolzMy test dose was 500mg and i was on trt prior to that so my test levels where already up, maybe 1.2g eq was too much for me. Any loss of thought would lead to loosing the stiffy so it definatelly affected me. Maybe if i was to run it longer i would adjust but i doubt it, since dropping the eq to 600mg my libido is back to normal.
I ve read of such cycles as well but maybe those guys tank their libido anyway? Or maybe i am asking too much when it comes to quality of erections dont know really. Not something i would try again i an hurry
What do you mean by I am going to be losing breath with this stack?
My girlfriend is a crazy nympho haha so dont want to make my libido suffer too much!
Do you think this will be a better cycle?
Week 1-10 test e 600 eq 600
Week 10-12 test e 600
Or
Week 1-10 prop 600mg bold ace 600mg
Are the flu symptoms really that bad or are they exaggerated?
Also thinking last 4 weeks 8mg albuterol ed
dbolzEq is the second worst steroid in raising rbc after tren and deca is the third on the list. When you carry arround 30% more blood than normal which is what you were going to get with this stack and you rbc is sky high you will be loosing your breath when relaxing or before you fell asleep. It wont affect you much when working out or having sex you will probably sweat a little more and your bp will be skyhigh. The loss of breath happened to me when i was trying to relax and i was almost feeling faint at times. Thats why i ask if you are prepared for such thing.
I would go with the test e/eq combo you have planned there, you will get much better results with the long esters. Only thing i would change is maybe run the test e and eq for 13-14 weeks cause eq peaks arround week 7-11 so 10 weeks is not enough really. If you dont want to run for 10 weeks then go with the prop/ace option.
I havent tried bold ace but it all depends where you get it from and if its indeed bold ace. You might not get any of the symptoms. If you want to try it just run the long esters and use the bold ace when you are tappering the 2-3 weeks till pct
Week 1-13 Test 600, EQ 600
Week 13-16 Testp 100mg eod/ bold ace 50mg ed
Week 16-20 pct
Also keep in mind every new red blood cell you create has an active life of 160days so you will have to wait 160days after you finish this cycle to run any eq/deca\tren. Even better would be that you take 160days off after this stack.
Try the albuterol or clen for your pct although i wouldnt suggest it with the right diet the eq will lean you up a lot. Good luck with it
questing why are you taking equipoise and deca with out test for the first 2 weeks. doesnt make sense. you should run the test e all the way from week one. somebody correct me if im wrong.
then do an optional front load of test prop 100 every other day for the first 2 weeks.