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Test with no ester as a pre workout

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Hello guys I am currently running deca / cyp 600 /800

I have ran the cycle many times and love it also have done tren a / test p. My question is has any tried a mix that is no ester test s as a pre workout ? I read from a source on here about one of their mixes and that's the description it gives. Not sure if I can name the source but they have a line of diff ones and this is mix 5.

Thank you

whoremoans's picture

Youve run all that gear and achieved what a natty could in the same time. That should be a huge clue on how bad you cycle. Especially deca which is a primarily a bulk compound. I'm 4 inches shorter than you and have nearly 80lbs on you. Wtf. Oh and why would you even consider tne or sus as a pre workout mid cycle? Think about it, your test is spiked almost to its peak and you think jabbing base test will shoot it up even more? Even if it elevates it just a bit you won't feel anything but placebo. Tne or sus is either a kicker or a full cycle compound which means pinning 3-4 times a day.

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giants59's picture

Theses guys don't just bash people for fun. They're trying to steer you in the right direction. That's what the forums is all about. There's so many experienced users here and I would listen to them. 600mg of deca at your stats? Come on.. something is off somewhere. Gear doesn't make the gains, you gotta eat eat eat and train hard and recover

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j1980's picture

You should consider your self lucky to have a group of us willing to be honest with you. Dummy

Bodibody's picture

125 is my natural wieght. But always looking to get bigger and no I wouldn't be a water mess and piss it away. I general drop a pound or two off cycle. But any way thanks for nothing. I will just give it a shot. And the search function is worthless since it's just you guys bashing someone for asking a similar question.

Manshit's picture

If you have done a couple of cycles already and you are only 160 lb how much did you weigh when you started to use aas?

daksmack's picture

Pb&j are best pre workout when your under 200lbs lol...

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Caeser's picture

^lol
But won't the carbs make him fat?...HA!

Drock_357's picture

Shouldn't be to difficult to find the answer simply by using the search function.....

Do you honestly believe you need it tho? ..I mean after your many cycles of deca/test and tren/test I would think your maxed out on size, being 160# and all....

Makwa's picture

Stats
Age: 35
Height: 510
Weight: 160
BF:

I think you are right about that

Jayzgainz's picture

I decided to try it off a promo. My normal preworkout is 2 cups of coffee being as I workout at 4 am. I have never had a problem getting up and out the door to train, I always think about how good I feel afterwards. Because there are those days, especially during winter where I wanna say screw it and stay home. But I have NEVER felt shitty after a workout. This compound imo stepped my training up. I had to force myself to leave the couple times I used it. Just upped my energy and the ferocity I trained with. That said, I wont use it again. The pip was not worth it, I sweated lke a pig and made me very irritable. I get all I need from test and coffee.

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Bill G's picture

I've seen that same product for sale. The only thing that comes to mind is how tf can you control your estro with it spiking like that for an few hours. Does seem a blast of test right there and then would give some real aggression to hit the weights

Jayzgainz's picture

I agree, if estrogen is not controlled its not wise to spike test. The 1st half of my cycle I was very sensitive to my ai and estro. There was no way I would use this at that point. During the 2nd half after I was straightened out is when I tried this and while its not the ideal way to keep levels steady I personally dont feel I suffered any long term ill effects.

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bigrick2017's picture

I to have reviewed that product it's some good stuff it has some bite when you pin it though

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Jayzgainz's picture

Click my name and read through my reviews. There is one there for what your talking about. Also and for future reference if you go to a sources discussion page and ask your question im sure you will find someone to help.

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Jayzgainz's picture

I did yes, he asked if anyone has tried this product. I have so I refered him to the review I wrote. I didnt give advice outside of where to look for info and ask questions. Im not trying to be a jerk and I get why that info is needed for a lot of questions just didnt think my answer to his post was in the wrong....

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Jayzgainz's picture

Roger! I didnt know this would qualify as cosigning but I got it

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