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Test, Tren, HGH

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What’s the opinion on a cycle similar to this:

Test Cyp 400mg/week (6 months)
Somatropin 4-6iu/day (6 months)
Tren E 200mg/week (first 10 weeks)

I feel like I’ve plateaued at 215-218. Trying to add dense muscle growth. Just wanting opinions and help with what to do!

Hulkfitprobulk's picture

What is your timing for hgh ?

simonmagus84's picture

Have you considered running test a little lower around trt dose or 200 mgs while running Tren around 250/300mgs? I remember several members on this forum running Tren E higher and claiming lower sides. I only ran Tren once using that method so I cannot make claims which is better cycle to run but the gains were minimal but clean and side effects weren’t too bad.

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

I'm currently running Test/Tren, pulsing anadrol and running hgh and igf-1lr3. Great stack.

750mg test. 400mg Tren. 75mg anadrol. 4 iu hgh and 60mcg of igf-1lr3.

Juiced2022's picture

Are you enjoying this cycle so far? I haven’t ran test that high in a long time. Usually 600mg/wk is my max.
Pros and cons of it?

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Only con is how many time I have to pin, but I don't mind it that much. HGH twice a day. igf-1 once a day. Tren ace / test p EOD

Only sides I get from tren are sweating alot and insomnia to a degree, but I already have insomnia without tren. combat vet. old habits die hard.

Juiced2022's picture

Oh wow! I didn’t even think you were using prop in this. How’s prop do with the bulking side of your cycle?

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Comes on faster. Get more at once. I love short esters. Way better. I'll even throw in some TNE preworkout on some days.

dwayne44's picture

Nice chatting with ya earlier my man. So I hate injecting but after all our conversations about how you love test prop I think I may start using it a lil more in my arsenal. For me it's more of a preworkout but I think I can get more from it though. Haha gonna be the key to that bigger bench. Might even try suspension

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

We always have the best conversations. LOL Skull King is classic!! LMFAO. Short ester just seem to work better. I still use Test E for TRT but prefer prop for blasts. And if you really wanna hit for preworkout, try TNE. The solvent sucks and stinks up the house when you open your box of gear...but 50-100mg (whatever you dose) in a few hours is pretty dope.

dwayne44's picture

Hahaha SKULL KING!

dwayne44's picture

Yea the only reason why I never used TNE was because of those nasty solvents. But now I'm leaning towards suspension. Pip will sux though. And yea about test p, that's what I mean, I can get more from it by including it in blast. Never done that. But yea I'm starting to see better growth from short esters. The studies say opposite though.

press1's picture

My Brother from another mother!!! LMFAO I'm a Test prop man too although I pin ED, same with NPP/Tren ace etc Once you get use to the hard euphoric hit of prop I really don't think there is any going back to Enanth, same with Tren ace and E. Only problem is it works out more expensive. I see injecting as the same amount of time as sitting on the crapper - whats 5 minutes of your day if you are passionate about building muscle and strength? Its the miracle that turns you from an average natty gym goer into some kind of beast.

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Everyday pinning for Prop and Ace are actually what you're suppose to do. I sneak in a few everyday once a week but I start feeling like a pin cushion if I did it consistently. lol.

press1's picture

When I pinned EOD in the early days I would always wonder why I felt like crap on the non-pinning days. Then when I moved to ED the troughs went and all the strength increases started happening.

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Mixing test e with test p helps with that. Keeps the blood semi stable on non pinning days.

press1's picture

How long ya been pinning gear bud?

I saw a great film this morning with you mentioning you have been in the forces - Eye in the sky it was called. Do they really have these tiny Bee like drones now they can fly into houses? Thats mad what they can do with surveillance now.

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

I'm sure they have shit like that. I mean, we all have super computers in our pockets these days. Everything gets smaller and smaller. I was sharp shooter. Support for marine raiders or army rangers. Went in as an ET and my RDC saw my shooting skills in boot camp and tried to get me to go into buds (seal boot camp). I refused over and over. He ended up being my CO in Cali.. made me go to gunners mate school so I can go to rifle training. Next thing I know Im fucking up ppl with an M5.

dwayne44's picture

The Skull King is aka John Rambo. Forgot you were in military.

So you prefer Test E over C? Why?

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

I like to run them together but if I had to chose, prop...hits harder, comes on faster.

press1's picture

Mate that is absolutely AWESOME!!! I've fantasized about doing that for a job - I loved guns as a kid and had air rifles, my Godfather was obsessed with Guns and had Muskets, 12 bore pump actions the lot before the UK got strict gun laws with mass shootings involving pump actions. So when I was old enough it became law you had to be a farmer or have a proper gun license with a secure safe in your property and everything. Single shot shotguns etc The Police have to come out to your property and vet you out and everything - no criminal record whatsoever. Wow so a proper sniper then that is pretty damn cool I must say - I'm impressed. Are 50 cal's over there and that sort of weapon strictly army only then?

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

We have everything in the US. You can get a 50 cal if you want. I built an Aero Precision M5 (.308/7.62) like I had in the navy. Custom barrel, custom trigger, customized lower, bi-pod, vortex strike eagle optic (25x zoom). Also have quite a few hand guns, 9mm, .380, .32...12ga over under for clays.

My home state, Texas.. has constitutional carry and you can buy a suppressor without any kind of vetting. Anywhere else you need a stamp from the ATF and that takes months. I haven't lived in Texas for many years tho.

press1's picture

Yeah that M5 looks wicked with the suppressor on. I don't know how you guys can stay so responsible and collected over there when you have big fallouts with people or cheating wives etc, if I owned a weapon like that I'd want to go and use it on them Lol

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Lmfao. I'm not the jealous type. An ass whooping is way more satisfying than shooting someone. Anger can't be your go to when shit goes down I suppose. I do MMA with the kiddo and that keeps me pretty level headed. Plus I'd rather take teeth than lives. War fucked me up pretty good with killing. I can't sleep much these days. Few hours here and there a day.

press1's picture

Bud you did what you had to do because otherwise the fatalities the other person would have caused would have been much worse than you just killing them. Lots of Evil people in this world mate and they are better rid of Good 'I'd rather take teeth than lives' - that's a great saying!

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

I started in my 20s. Early 2000s. Got to about 240# bulked up 220#ish ripped. Then fell off in about 2006. Stop lifting. Got married all that kinda shit. Barely got back into it last year. Basically started over at 150 with a skinny guy with a dad beer gut. Lol. Bout 190# now. On TRT and blast every couple months.

press1's picture

Thats one thing I really wish I did, start using in my 20's. All the videos I see of guys just hitting 30 moaning about how they did so much better earlier on and recovered better. I was 34 before I started using gear and know I missed the boat, wasted years chasing women and going out all the time in town Lol

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Dwayne and I have talked about it. The scene wasnt like it is now. I used vet gear and made my own tren out of finaplix. lol. Today is much better! I get legit shit from my doc and extra here.

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Gotta have some party time and you can't really do that if you're a gym rat. Well I guess you can but you might shit out your liver. When I didnt lift I partied, built race cars, rode crotch rockets... All that... But I'm glad to be back lifting again and looking good. Females come to me again.. no chasing... And I'm 43. Ask Dwayne why he calls me skull king. Lmfao. Missed that shit. Lol.

Definitely harder to make gains at this age but it's not impossible. Just gotta go hard. It didn't take much gear to make me blow up in my 20s...takes quite a bit more now and it just doesn't come as fast. Sucks getting old.

Juiced2022's picture

So you truly recommend prop over enanthate or cypionate when it comes to test?

press1's picture

For me I've always found it works extremely well, putting Enanth and prop together is the best of both worlds but it depends on your experience with gear really. Putting the 2 esters alongside each other raises the troughs and peaks.

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Exactly my experience.

Rustyhooker's picture

Whats your priors? Youre not on here like you know cycles

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

I was wondering where you were. Lol. It's not a real thread without rusty. Lol

Rustyhooker's picture

Op doesnt seem receptive so im just chillin. Watching the chatter is fun shit! Like olded days. Lol

Juiced2022's picture

I wouldn’t know where to start on trying to list every cycle I’ve taken.

But as the original post said, looking for opinions and help for what I should do. Seeing what others say and what worked for them. That’s all this is

Rustyhooker's picture

6months is not good. Body diesnt keep truckin like that.

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

The anadrol is just starting to kick as is the Tren. By next week I should see some big strength gains. Tren ace doesn't take long to take hold.

press1's picture

Do you run this specifically as a Strength cycle? How do you find the IGF - 1LR3?

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

A few sources have it on here. Pm me.

Just trying to add some lean mass. I eat every 2 hours and my diet is legit. Hard gainer and I don't really like to bulk and then cut the fat...so lean bulk works well for me. I stay pretty ripped while I add weight with this cycle.

press1's picture

HAHA This has happened a few times when I've said how do you find it to someone in the US! Over in the UK mate it means 'how do you like it, does it give good results?

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Oh. LOL. Love it. Compliments the HGH well and you don't seem to ever tucker out in the gym. Increases appetite in some and will put on some poundage if you eat like a beast.

Juiced2022's picture

Damn -- I also fell for this then. Go ‘Merica --

press1's picture

LOL!!

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

Only on day 6, but I tend to run test a bit higher on blast since I cruise on a trt dose (250mg). Legit trt with my doc btw.

I have been running hgh for several months tho. 5 months now. Igf-1lr3 you cycle one month on one month off.

I don't really see alot of sides when running gear. Not prone to gyno and I don't really need to run AI constantly. Just when sides pop up.

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

I eat really clean so this will be a lean bulk cycle for me. I don't really get a lot of bloat from anadrol bc of my diet.

AI when needed and TUDCA for the drol. Caber on hand just in case.

Bulkdaddy's picture

If your stuck at the weight… Guess what? Time to eat more… lol

Juiced2022's picture

Well yeah.. Which comes to the question of what can I do to eat more? Stupid probably, but there’s no worse feeling than walking around nauseous working in HR all day long. I literally nauseous by the end of meal 3.

I’ve even read into GHRP6 to boost my appetite. I’m just willing to try whatever without killing my self.

Bulkdaddy's picture

That’s only for a short period of time. Eventually your stomach will stretch out.

Waltdisneysbum's picture

I'm in the same boat with the appetite struggles. Not sure if they're frowned upon on here but if you're not lactose intolerant then Boditronics do a great gainer shake formula... The 'Mass Attack Heavyweight' is what I use from them personally.
1500kcal in 300ml of whole milk, which is a tiny amount to drink and you won't even know its in there considering it mixes so easily.
Only downside with any 'gainer' shake is you can't micromanage the macros.

Juiced2022's picture

I’m to the point of drinking 2 out of 5 meals. Smoothie being one of them for breakfast. Then protein and rice/potatoes after workout.

I’m just stuck bromigo. Strength goes up but my weight stays fluctuating. Just really trying to figure something out to make me hungrier and add denseness to the frame (I know I’ve said that a hundred times already)

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