posted Wed, 05/20/2015 - 14:01
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Test P/Tren + Masteron Cycle
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This is my 1st post
Currently on day 23 of cycle
1-3 Week-
Tren 75mg ED
Test P 125mg ED
.5mg Adex ED
.5mg Caber E3D
4-10 Week (Currently on this)
Tren 75mg
Test P 125mg
Masteron 50mg ED
Adex .5mg ED
Caber .5 EOD
Clen 25mcg ED for 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
PROBLEMS:
Heat Flashes/Night sweats
BAD WATER RETENTION
How do I get rid of water retention on. I have a photo-shoot in 1 week...
I have Lasix on hand and Letro
Should I run Lasix 40mg ED For 3 days before photoshoot or start running letro or up my dose of adex
Help Please
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Out of my depth here with the diuretics but I think your ratios are off. I also think you should not be doing this advanced of a cycle bud.
I would drop test way down if not all together and up mast. Maybe take the letro but I do not think it will do you much good only one week out.
Kind of stumped here. Only thing I can think of is that your AI is bunk. Is it pharma? How much AI have you needed for your other cycles? Seems like a hell of a lot that you are running now. That also seems like a lot test to be running. I would drop the test completely and crash estro with some letro ASAP if you have a shoot coming up in 1 week and follow the prep strategy link Gearhead gave you below.
And don't mess with those synthetic diuretics. 99% of the time it will backfire on you and you will end up looking smooth and flat and possible dead. The natural diuretics (dandelion root and vit C) work great and will shed any excess water those final two days leading up to the show.
I love seeing someone else talking about dandelion root. It's such an effective tool at shedding water. I wrote a thread called Are you holding Water and I mentioned a few ways to drop water. I hate that I forgot to add Dandelion. My mom has been using Dandelion for years to help her with edema problems. They had her on Lasix and then diazide and back to Lasix. Dandelion though not as effective as the synthetics it has always been one of her go to natural remedies. I use it daily along with a smaller daily dose of Vitc and B-complex.
I realize u have a photoshoot upcoming and desperation may set in. I'm worried that you will turn to Lasix and OD on it while you try to dry out. It is one of the most dangerous diuretics that exist and can flush the electrolytes right out of your system leading to cardiac arrest (in particular from potassium loss). Why don't you try a simple water flush protocol? This is a great post to read. Take a look at the Water Intake section.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/peak-week-prep-strategy
That was my exact worry as well. Taking Lasix without knowing how can fuck you up or even worse as you said.
Just from reading over this thread I think there may be an issue with his diet and water intake and possibly his AI. To be using Letro and still have some water retention in his face and abs makes me think he may have poor quality AI as well.
I was going to paste the same link you did as it's exactly the type of info he needs.
I also wonder what his cardio is like. It would help a great deal to see his diet posted up. How far has he cut back his carbs? I'm also thinking that there's trial and error and he may have to chalk this shoot prep up as a loss. Better that than to panic as you said and hurt himself
AnonYea I think it's a nutrition issue
Definitely need a lot more info from him. All good points that he needs to address here to help figure out what is going on.
Thanks man great read
Do you know how to use diuretics safely?
Using Rx diuretics in prep is never "safe." Do I use them? Yes, but it would be diazide or a diazide aldactone combo (aldactazide) but I would encourage you to use something natural like Vitamin C instead. You can dry out without chemical diuretics bro and Lasix abuse can put you in a coffin and I'm not kidding.
And if it doesn't kill you, there is the more than likely chance you will cramp up because your electrolytes are all out of whack. Good luck trying to pose when you are cramped up and can't even move.
Hehehe. LMAO Is this where I get to come clean and say I remember that show?
The bird is out of the cage now. lol
AnonAnother thing is in no way should you be taking adex everyday.... With the half life it has you should be running that eod.... Shouldn't have water retention.... At this point if it were me I'd have blood work done to try and pin point the issue
AnonGS where you at
AnonYour 5'11" 185#
Smh ...... You should not have been running this cycle at all
Barely old enough to be running a cycle brother don't you know you can benefit greatly from just a test only cycle
Good diet and training is what you need at that height and weight.... You have not reach your full natural potential yet and jumping on the train... So many just like you do the same shit and we end up saying the same things over and over
Nutrition is your best friend in this game then run a proper test cycle and your gonna be surprised at what happens
Then later you can add compounds whether it be peals or another injectable like nandrolone... But not three like you have listed... Your just not ready for that yet brother
You jumped right from a 1 prop cycle 1 var cycle to a pretty advanced test tren mast cycle ? You're running short estered test that shouldn't have a ton of e2 conversion and you're using a huge dose of adex and your using mast and still suffering bad water retention. What's your diet like man? That shouldn't be happening with a good diet and legit mast and Adex. Either your diet is piss poor or your ai is totally bunk. Those are just my observations, the guys who are more fimilar with preping and peaking should be able to help you out more but I think you're in way over your head. I'm not all that knowledgable in contest prep or peaking like you're trying to do but my cycle for my show in the fall has me dropping test a few weeks out. That's the only drug your runjijg that can convert to estrogen and cause water retention so you might want to think about dropping it now and adding letro. I helped my buddy with his first show and had him running something similar had him add letro the last week and he was bone dry. But he also was alresdt pretty damn dry using just Adex at .25mg eod leading up to that. So something's not right here. Will see what everyone else has to say..
Way over the top for your experience level. The issues you're running into you should have the knowledge and experience to rectify by the time you're running cycles as complex / advanced as this. Your solution is to throw more compounds in, heavy duty AI, diuretics, again without knowing the basics of why it's happening. There's no cookie cutter approach you see, what works for me isn't necessarily the same for others, so you learn your body SLOWLY.
You're in the shit, so I'll point you in the right direction. Blood work. Research comp prep cycles, (test/tren/mast ratios - even though you shouldn't be using them). Vit C usage in water depletion. Some starting points there for you to look at.
Slow it down mate. Trying to run before you walk.
You're running high test with tren, both fight for the same receptors so you may have a lot of free test floating around and being converted to e2.
As my man below said, bloods are key to identifying the issue. It sounds like you're taking precautions with AI and caber but given the high test your AI may not be cutting it.
This was a crazy jump from your previous cycle experience btw. You ran an oral only cycle as cycle 2 (ph doesn't count) which suggests a lack of research to me and then jumped to test/tren/mast for cycle 3. Probably not the smartest move in retrospect I'm sure you will agree.
Have you gotten bloodwork? It sounds either like your estrogen is high, or you may be having an allergic reaction to something.
Also you're running 875mg/ wk of test. There could lie the fault. Your ratio of tren/test could also be causing the problem, there are numerous posts debating what the ideal ratio is.
Here are a few links I suggest you read. Also, next time post your cycle log in advance, that way a more experienced member can catch any issues.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/the-test-and-...
https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/tren-cycle-0
The responses on that last one nake a good read.
Water retention is really bad around face (under eyes and chin), chest, and around abs. I know it's not fat since I lowered my carb intake from what I normally eat and I know what water weight looks like
How much water you drinking per day right now?
I'm drinking close to a gallon and a half, but I've been getting caught up in social life and been on a drinking binge
That is a big part of what is f'in you up right there! Would have been nice to know that from the get go.
STATS- 25 years old, 5'11 186.
Plus need cycle history glad to see u hitting the forums
Stats:
5'11
185
bf%: Hard to say with water retention but probably 8% now
22 years old
1st Cycle: PH Msten 8 weeks
2nd Cycle: Test P 10 weeks
3rd Cycle: Anavar 8 weeks (Last 4 added in clen)
Your only 22?
No 25 sorry that was a typo