posted Fri, 04/25/2014 - 02:11
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Test Prop/Deca/Dbol Cycle Advise
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Wanting to start in about two weeks, Have had conflicting comments on using the deca and Test Prop together. Any advise or comments are welcome. Had a few guys get good results from this cycle and wanted to give it a go. Looking for the negatives and positives of this cycle, thanks in advance.
Stats
Age: 29
Height: 5'10
Weight: 196 to 201
BF %: 11% to 12%
This will be my 4th cycle
GEAR;
Test PROP 200MG
DECA 200MG
DBOL 50MG
Arimidex on hand for the estrogen build-up.
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NotNatural23I would go test prop, npp, and Winny ecapecially if you want to get cut for summer. U would be pinning EOD for pro anyways so go with npp it is quicker and gets out of system faster and winny will keep you lean and not bloated like dbol. Good dbol gives me estrogen problems right away so if your prone to gyno. And price wise it is all about the same. I know some things but I am far from expert. I assume when people post these they done there research and have all things on hand for sides and pct afterwards or are trt.
Sort your stats out or get off the board...... my guys give advice with honesty and integrity i will not allow anybody to put the kybosh on the level of professionalism we have worked so hard to achieve across the board .
Can't assume anything. Most of them haven't done the research. Your stats are a little far fetched. It's hard for people to relate to those numbers.
lmao at his stats. that's bs him spitting advice out for him, the dude needs to answer the questions below from you and me before this goes any further, the dude sound less experienced than 4 cycles and doesn't seem to have done any of his own research. + 1 for the questions you asked below- good stuff
Yea, as you know we stress stats a lot here and when someone comes in and gives advice with bunk stats it discredits the whole system. Yea I was trying to get the ball rolling for guys like you who have experience with those compounds. I may have not taken them yet, but know enough that there are a lot of things that still need to be clarified before he gets proper advice. Yes experience is VERY VERY important, but you gotta at least have knowledge of the compound before you use it. Pinning blindly can be very dangerous.
exactly mate, but we all know you spend hours upon hours researching everything there is too know and more, you may not have ran it, but you know the science behind it and also the safety aspect and the protocols, im sorry too say it, but that dude is a troll.
I'd like to know how many times you've said Troll it's gotta be a lot, lol
7 foot 5 and 429 pounds, that is ridiculous, so yes that says troll too me, we will wait for op to return and hopefully he can elaborate and we can get him on track.
It must be Shaq! lol
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lay out your proposed cycle- how many weeks, and at what doses, what is your pinning schedule going to be? goal for cycle? diet? training? previous cycles? how did you recover? what were your pcts like? have you had bloods done? do you have any medical concerns or injuries? have you ran 19 nors before? do you understand progesterone and prolactin? do you know how too control them if problems arise? if so how, please elaborate and share some knowledge and understanding of the compound, if you don't fully understand it, research more before pinning it deep into you body, you need too match esters also, what dose do you intend on running your adex and when do you plan too start it? what is your pct going to be, how long do you plan too run it and at what doses, have you used dbol before? have you got liver ancillaries? are you going to be watching your blood pressure? there are a hundred question too be answered before any body is going too advise you on this cycle, please elaborate.
Those are most of my concerns and like black ops said the deca has a slow half life so it's going to take longer to wear off. I'm going to deff go back to the drawing board and rethink it. I have everything in hand but I might go with Test cyp it sounds like it works better with the deca.
Pins questions below stand out and blackops has good answers. Need pins questions answered to help. Too many variables.
Im guessing you mean using a long ester test instead of prop. Im also a fan of pairing the ester lengths so I would personally opt for test e instead. Also make sure you run the test longer than the deca either way. I go 2 weeks longer or more personally to make sure it clears before the test. Then they taper off gradually together where it would be much more work to use prop that way.
you use dbol before? 50mg is too much for me if its quality gear.
That's also another concern is the ester length. With prop being a shorter length, I might be overthinking it or maybe I'm worried I had a bad pct after I added some winstrol to a cycle it really fucked my head up! That's also a concern. As far as the Dbol yeah I tried 25mg and really was not getting anywhere so I bumped to 50mg and got some really solid gains. But this is new gear from a new source I still have the old source. Just wanted to try some new stuff.
What conflicting comments have you heard? Cycle Length? Doses of each per week? Previous Cycles? What are you using for prolactin control? What's your PCT? Jeebus, why am I asking all the questoins? That tells me you haven't thought things through.
Sorry for the missing info I'll post all the answers to your questions at the bottom. I asked a couple guys I know for some advise on adding a little more size and they recommended adding deca in with the Test and Dbol. So I started doing some research and it just seems like the results will not be that great( deca adding a lot of water weight). Is that true or am I wrong? And I have heard the deca is really hard to recover from, there are a lot of mixed reviews on that subject also. I just wanted input from someone that has used it? Or is knowledgable about this cycle.
Cycle length: 10 weeks
Doses each week: Test Prop 600mg
Dbol: 50mg ED
Deca: 400mg
Arimidex: .5 to 1.0 EOD
Prolactin control: Caber/ pill form .25mg twice a week.
I have used Test and Dbol in the past with great results. I'm not 100% with adding the deca in there. It seems like a lot more precautions when you add the deca those are my doubts about this cycle.
I was just trying to get the full picture so guys would be better able to help you out. I can't speak on personal experience with Deca, but there are plenty of guys here who can. One thought would be to match the Esters up to make your pinning schedule easier. Maybe go with Test E to match the Deca or Consider NPP to match the Prop. Npp will exit the body quicker if you have any adverse sides. As far as Deca shutdown I've heard that a single 100mg dose will shut you down completely.
Here is a very good read on NPP (http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/npp-seen-a-lot...)
Thanks for all your help too! Your made some good points and i think im going to hold off on the deca. Im going to dig in the forum and get some more info! I have heard the same thing about the 100mg dose shutting you down, and the long half life. thanks again for all the words of wisdom.
NP, hit TheFlash85 up when you decide to use it or if you have more detailed questions, I believe he's used both Deca and NPP.
I will, you helped a lot thanks again. I'll get with flash an get more info! Your advice was appreciated!
I would run that cycle with test cyp or E. And you right its gonna bloat you up with water weight. I like Caber at .5 e3d personally.
Ok, Thank you for the advise. I really appreciate all the help.