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test prop vs test e w/ AI

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Forgive me if my question is stupid, but im just looking for a little convincing before i run my first...basically im leaning towards prop due to the supposed "less bloat" and "leaner look" but to the people who have taken both, is there really a difference in bloat/leanness between prop and enth ran with an AI? i have low bodyfat and would like to retain the lean look for my vacation in may (proper diet of course)

thanks guys again i really appreciate this forum and all the knowledge ive gained from it

INCREDIBLEBULK's picture

I f-ing love test prop but I can't handle all of the injections. No other test makes my muscles so full and strong. I just love the way I feel on it. For your first cycle stick to the basics-test e, test c, or sustanon. I think if you start off pinning eod you will back out of the cycle because of all the injects and pip. If you keep test under 500mg and run a decent AI you won't see any bloat.

manlytt's picture

I wouldnt recommend anybody who is doing their first cycle to use prop. I used sust and enanthate for years and am just now turning to prop. Prop usually has more post Injection pain or pip. It needs to be pinned more than twice a week. If its your first cycle you have to get used to pinning more than just one site. I started a buddy on sust last summer a.d the whole time he only pinned his quads. When the juice came in he almost backed out until I watched me pin my quads. I was the same way without a coach when I first started, quads only. I now have several sites that I pin, which makes the every day or every other day pinning much more feasible. Your not going to bloat that much and if your that worried about it use some proviron in the last few weeks of cycle. The body comp changes are going to make you forget all about trivial bullshit like bloating. I hope this is helpful for you, peace my brother of the iron.

manlytt's picture

I neglected to see your age. My buddy I started on it was in his 40's. Yup as noid says your natural levels are too high and to suppress those would be a grate mistake. Natural test is way better.

Ryniz's picture

Natural test is "way" better..
oh god some shit people say..

Colossus_fit's picture

if the shoots of test propinate are made with regularity(maintaining the level constant),it bloats like test en or another test...many people say to have less retention because they don't keep costant levels

OdyOdd's picture

Test p gives less bloat yes. Sustanon is pretty good for less bloat as well.

ajones1963333's picture

i tried prop on my third cycle and i hated it. way too many injections. Cuz i was used to only doing 2 per week. but i didn't really get any bloat with either E or P, i guess cuz i always run an AI during cycle. i wouldn't recommend it for a first cycle though. stick to the E 500mg split into two injections per week for 12 weeks. You will love the results. once you have done a couple with E give P a try. i mostly use P now and masteron and only do 8 week cycles. lets me cycle more during the year. but thats just me.

benzo0's picture

appreciate the feedback guys...sounds like test E is the way to go...as for stats im 22 yrs old, a lean 170lb and the definition of an ectomorph...trained obsessively for about 3 years started on/off when i was 16...trust me ive done my research im a perfectionist when it comes to me doing things im interested in been reading about steroids since i was 18

Roid Noid's picture

So if you been reading about since you where 18, are you familiar with why you shouldnt run it till around 25?

benzo0's picture

No disrespect but in my opinion 25 is just a number if an educated 22 year old feels they are ready, theres only one way to find out and thats to just do it (carefully of course). However, I respect your advice.

OdyOdd's picture

If you feel like you're ready to do it then just go for it mate.

HllwdBdBoy's picture

Yeah, thats the responsIble reply... we know MOST these young knuckleheads are just going to do what they want cuz "they know everything" but we still try and reason with them AS RESPONSIBLE ADULTS AND AAS USERS

OdyOdd's picture

Well I see it the other way man. Imo when you're 21+ years old, you are old enough to make your own decisions. This is a steroid board. Im not here to tell people whether or not they should use steroids. Im here to do what I do best. Giving advice about cycles, training and food. Some people wanna become pro, and if thats yor goal youll have to start even earlier then 21 to have as much chance as you can get. Its all good though. I was expecting to get a shitstorm on me for stating my opinion on the matter. But im pretty sure when it comes to steroids and training I know more then 99 pct of the members on this site.

Carlos Danger's picture

A Wise Man on this site is like the Great Wall of China.
You can spot them from Outter Space!
Foolish to not listen to wisdom. SMH

Carlos Danger's picture

LMAO! Just don't choke yourself during foreplay! Didn't work out for Cain

eatbig's picture

run the usual test e @ 500 split m/th weeks 1-12for your first cycle and keep the AI on hand in case of gyno anr run nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50. With prop you have to pin way more such as every day or every other day and won't like it especialy with virgin muscles. Trust me when I say you won't be disapointed with test e.

maxamax's picture

common protocol for the first is test e 500 mg week 10-12 weeks to see how you react to the cycle and the pinning schedule. also it will give you a feel for the side you are prone to. dont forget you always gotta crawl before you walk.

Carlos Danger's picture

He has GURU under his name for a reason!

maxamax's picture

every time i see GURU i think of Mike Myers in "The Love Guru" lol

HllwdBdBoy's picture

really? everytime i see Mike Myers in "The Love Guru" i think of tread

maxamax's picture

he should seriously contemplate that as his next display pic.