Test Prop/ Tren A/ Masteron Cycle Help
stats: 22, 5'10" 220Lbs 18%bf training for 5 years, 2 previous cycles consisting of test,deca, and dbol. Train hard, diet is ok (in the process of cleaning up).
I have a cycle lined up for march and would like to run it past the vets out there for some input on my cycle and pct. All info is welcomed and very much appreciated.
Test prop 800mg/wk weeks 1-12
Tren Ace 300mg/wk weeks 1-8
Masteron 300mg/wk weeks 9-12
Cabergoline .25mg 2x/wk weeks 1-9
Arimidex .5mg E3D weeks 1-12
PCT
HCG Starting on last week of cycle and running an additional 2 weeks for a total of 3weeks. 500iu/ED weeks 12-14
Nolva 20mg/ED weeks 13-17
Exemestane 20mg/ed weeks 14-16
Any advice on pct or AAS dosages? Will I benefit from masteron if only running for final 4 weeks? Thanks in advance guys. -BUBBA89
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its all been said.
Frankietoo much and short esters for 12 weeks ? why?
this
weeks 1-12 500mgs test e ew
weeks 8-14 either 150mgs mast prop eod or 50-75mgs oral winny ed
adex on cycle at 0.25mgs eod
hcg on cycle at 500iu every week from week one to start of pct (the idea of hcg is to PREVENT HPTA SHUT DOWN ON CYCLE NOT TO ADD IT IN PCT AS ITS TOO LATE THEN...PREVENTION IS WHAT YOU WANT WITH HCG)
nolvadex and clomid pct starting 2 weeks after last test e shot (2 days after last winny tab or mast proop shot)
a basic test cycle with a dht at the end to harden and dry you out is all you need man .
get the diet sorted and you will hit your goals
well the only reason i kept it all short esters was to keep the bloat to a minimum. I appreciate all of your help. I will drop the tren and I plan on having my diet spot on while im on cycle. I was looking at the mast simply because i wanted something to help produce a more solid, leaner look. My main goal was to produce a very nice cut cycle, drop bf% and increase LBM.
Frankieblaot will be down to diet bro ,poor diet full of salt and bad fats will lead to bloat even on test prop ,your ai will keep any unwated blaot of aswell as gyno and along with a good clean diet blaot can away no problem at all ...
your goals are doable bro but its all about the diet my man
sgtstedankoI like that cycle much better : ) Almost looks like something I'd do... Cheers
biggerthanyou18% bf and ur suggesting winny or mast? Why?
FrankieBECASUE IF HE HITS A GOOD DIET ON CYCLE BY THE TIME WEEK 8 COMES TO START THE DHT HE CAN GET TO 14% IMO AND YES WHILE THE DHT,S ARE BEST USED AT A LOW BODYFAT THERE ARE OTHER BENIFITS TO IT THAN JUST WHAT YOU SEE ,IT DRYS AND PRIMES AND HARDERNS GIVE GOOD TIGHT MUSCLE FIBERS THAT CAN REALLY BE WORKED TO TEAR THEM UP.
IF HE DIETS RIGHT THERE IS NO REASON HE CANT BE SITTING AT A SOLID 11% SOLID AT THE END OF HIS CYCLE.
biggerthanyouTouche diet is key!
Frankieof course bro .its amazeing what the right diet can do so if he gets that i order then he can have great gains but as we know many fail to follow the correct diet and think the drugs are going to do all the work
biggerthanyouIm a firm believer that you can get better results from a perfect diet and proper training without juice, than roiding ur ass off and not putting the kitchen work in
Frankiei x2 that but both put together in the right manner and bangggg your bang on the money.
biggerthanyouUr too fat for tren or Masteron bro.
sgtstedankoDamn, Bubba; you really need to slow down, brother. You're only 22, what's your hurry? Are you a bodybuilding legend un the making, or trying to be? I don't like the cycle, or the unnecessary tren. Be the turtle... Spend the time getting your diet dialed in. I think I'm the only person in the world that truly understands you, & really gets your humor. That said... You're not very funny : ( you're welcome
hey sgt. Yes, i will get my diet on track first (permanently). I think thats why i looked at tren in the first place to be honest with you, to shed the fat to make up for a roller coaster diet. As far as a bodybuilding legend in the making lol. yes id love to be, but you did scare me with that TRT@30 talk. not to get off topic but about those guys like cody lewis whos like 21 or alex lesucov. Are these guys that start young going to have to be on test the rest of their lives.....??
sgtstedankoChances are very very good, they will. That's the lifestyle they've chosen. There comes a time when your body gives up. No matter what. Why start early, dude. You have not reached your natural potential yet. (mentally or physically) Why not get your vitamin/minerals, diet in check 1st. I personally think that you should take a couple if years to try hard to reach your potential. No shortcuts, absolutely no fucking excuses! Just try hard, dude. Show some patience. Be the turtle...
Read this. I hope it helps you. Go out & get laid (there is no better workout) continue researching, & properly training, while getting you diet in check for a couple years 1st... Just my opinion. Take it, or leave it. Your quality of life will be better, & you'll be better prepared to cycle, if you wait. Get the important shit in life down pat 1st!
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/bet...
that was a very good article you setup. really helps me in understanding how important diet is and how to benefit from changing my routine and intensity. Its now in my favorites folder lol. thanks again
Frankieeducation is the key mate ,you get that right and your going to get everything your looking for .
Boy do you have a way with words bro. I also forgot to mention his body fat is way to high to run mast or anything else for that matter.
sgtstedankoThanks:) Another candidate for trt@30. It's just stupidity, impatience, & lack of the proper fundamentals. It's a kick in the balls to the pioneers that took the notes, that these kids are reading, & getting all these delusions of grandeur. It's getting depressing. All kinds of guys are coming on here looking @ all these advanced compounds to shed bf! Compounds, that look pretty on paper, but really have absolutely no use to them yet. There's no dedication. There's no wisdom. It's all gimme, gimme, gimme; now, now, now. Mine! Everybody's 2nd or 3rd cycle. & they want tren, & mast, Wtf? I always thought the natural progression was test, EQ, deca, etc, etc, etc. That's a good 10 years right there. At least... Damn impatient kids. Get off my lawn! *Note: children, 17-24, take the time to learn your body, & its natural limits. Love becoming a man. Truly enjoy it, don't waste it; it the hard Earned knowledge offered to you. & yes, no matter who you are, you're not a man @ 23, (mentally or physically) no matter how hard you try. Unless you have seen some shit, in battle (not xbox) & or have kids at home, that YOU are raising, & you don't call your wife the baby mama. This rant has not been sponsored by tren
Very, very well said bro, agree 100% on everything.
Frankiex2
they wont learn untill its too late all we can do is guide them
Hopefully they listen, which the majority probably don't but we have to try.
Bubba bro this has bad news written all over it. Your kinda young to be running anything and tren on your third go is no good.
Thats a pretty big cycle bro and you are a little young plus tren on 3rd cycle is not the best choice