TEST PROP KICKER/ TEST E & DECA CYCLE/ TEST P TAPER HELP PLZ...
What's up fellaz, I'm on week 7 of my test e / deca cycle - started off with prop/test e/ deca 300/500/250 - prop kicker only, - last week upped my dosage to 650 on the test e.. I have noticed VERY GOOD strength gains, Good Increase in muscularity, I did notice that my weight on the scale has gone up 10 lbs, (but most of that being gained the first 3-4 weeks).. Since then my weight has pretty much stayed the same. I know a lot of things can effect wether or not you are gaining weight, so I will answer a few questions before they come rolling in. I EAT CLEAN, I eat between 1.5 -2.5 G of protien per lb of body weight, everyday. I supplement with protien, currently using on whey - just switched from betancourt big blend..I drink a shit ton of water, especially from morning till around 5-6 ish after that I just piss my brains out all night.
2 Questions.. 1.)Should I eat MORE?? and ..2.)How long can I run the test e before I start the taper. I was under the impression that 12 weeks was long enough, but would there be any benifit // negative effect to running the test a little longer.. say 14-16 weeks thennn start the prop taper? I know there is " ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD " to do another cycle, but I have the extra test e on hand to use.. and I want to get the absolute best results out of this cycle possible. One other thing.. anyone running clen with a cycle like this? or throwing it in at the end and running it through pct? I heard there are some benifits to running clen (helps you keep more of your gains)- Before you google it and read the first thing you find regarding use of clen along with pct, and copy and paste it to my page, do a little research. Please unless YOU have used it with GOOD RESULTS, or are very knowledgable about this shit, then don't respond.
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Thanks everyone for your advice. I think the problem is I don't eat very much carbs at all, diet right now consists of MAINLY PROTEIN. I am afraid to go up in bf, it's just a mental thing.. AND NOT A GOOD THING OBVIOUSLY. I AM GOING TO UP MY CARBS ( SHOULDN'T BE HARD CONSIDERING THE ONLY CARBS I EAT RIGHT NOW COME FROM VEG. LIKE BROCCOLI ETC.) AND SEE WHERE IT TAKES ME.. = ) Thank you all again!
tread-mAdd another meal to your days meals even if it means you have to cut a shake. The most important shake of the day is your bedtime casein in water. If you wake up in the night to piss have another casein shake ready in your shaker in the fridge. Push to lift heavier with less reps getting it done bigger and faster and get out of the gym.
Im on the broke ass college student budget so instad of buying whey and casein i just buy whey in bulk. I know casein is better for before bed because it digests slower so i allways add my pre bed whey (50g)to 16oz whole fat choco milk. Do I get a bit of the same benefit this way? I figure the protein in the milk is casein anyway but there is also some whey, I have no idea what the ratio is. Does taking the whey with the whole fat choco instead of water slow digetion some? I also put 1-1.5 cups of ground oats in this if it makes a difference. I drink this right before bed and immediately upon waking, followed by 32oz of water.
eat more !!!! my gains usually stop around week 10 or so.
How much should I gain, REALISTICALLY ? 10-15 lbs? 20? And any advantage to running the test another 4 weeks then starting my prop taper?
How can I possibly eat anymore? I am eating 4-5 meals a day plus shakes. LOL . It equates to around 300-350 G of protien per day, I'm 6ft1 255 up 10 lbs from 245. I guess I will eat more. Thanks kc!
Slowly but surely bro, just up your cals slowly and evntually youll be eating what you need and wont even notice. I started this bulk almost making myself throw up i was eating so much now in week 7 im up 17pds, leaner and i eat the same amount an ill be starving(like i am now) when meal time comes around.
I am hungry just about every 2-3 hours now. But I eat super clean I think that's what my problem is. I have a fear of carbs. I probably don't eat enough carbs.. But I don't wanna get all flabby and shit, I want clean bulk. It's a hard thing to balance..
Honestly bro i can tell you from experience with myself. Its a hell of alot easier to lose fat then it is to put on muscle. If you get a lil fat while your bulking then you know you provided enough food for your body to build off of and i swear aslong as you dont keep it for months at a time and gradually take it off itll come off REALLY fast when your done. The last thing you want to do(if your REALLY trying to get big) is not provide youself with the necissary building blocks(food) to grow as large as you can and make the most of your cycle. If your like me you cant hardly gain shit off cycle without cramming your face and putting on a good amount of fat so id make the most out of your cycle and worry about that 6 pack for when your off cycle.
You pinned it right here with this comment. SO TRUE....that's how I work it too.