posted Thu, 03/01/2012 - 13:04
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Ready to pin - need advice!
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Hey people I am ready to pin my test prop, test e, and deca. One quick question. I have 3ml 1" syringes. I want to stick myself twice max. I understand that I can pull up my deca, then test in same syringe, discard the needle used to penetrate the ruber stoppers, pop a new one on, then pull up my prop in another syringe, discard needle, then pop a new one on and inject. Right? Any other way you guys would do this? and please no, " yeah I'd inject it in my nuts, cuz it will work faster.." lol. - ok maybe just a lil ball busting. I'm already tense.. bout to take a hot shower, then man up. Help a brotha out. Thanks!!
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CYCLE UPDATE: GOING ON WEEK 10, UP 13 LBS, STILL GAINING - SWITCHING OVER TO PROP TO START TAPER AFTER THIS WEEK. STRENGTH STILL INCREASING, FEELING GOOD. FUCKING GREAT FIRST CYCLE. THANK YOU EROIDS!!
Nice! thanks for the update a lot of guys forget that part. Remember to keep eating off cycle to keep the gains..
ok thanks, sorry
question is it ok to use deltoid inj site with something like test prop or tren ace ? anyone ever try it ?
YES, AND YES.
Thats a good idea, I will start thinking on it tonight. That sight that carmex mentioned is the one I used when I was first starting GEAR. Even with experience, I still need reminders. Thanks for the reply's you guys.
OOOH YESSIR!<3 ME SOME RICE AND BEANS BRO. = P
Yes sir. Most important part! +1
Bro - just went to the store, found chick. cutlet ( not breaded ) just "thin" sliced chicken breast for like 3.00 - 4.00 a package - each one contains like 5-6 cutlets!! Bought the whole damn store out of them!! Should have seen the way people were lookin @ me bro!! - LOL - PRICELE$$! I also stocked up on eggs,fish, lean steaks,red beans, broccoli, fresh veggies,and sweet potatoes. I can onlyimagine what people were thinking. I always trim my steaks before cooking them, ALL FAT is trimmed before I even think about eating it. I'm a FREAK about it.. but hey you only get to do your 1st cycle ONCE, and I want to maximize my gains, and eat as clean as possible.
Is costco really that much cheaper? There is a place around called best market, or top market.. My girl shops there, sometimes they have insane deals on filet mignon etc. Like a whole 3 ft long filet for like 15-20bucks!! sirloins, and BROILLL TOO!! Chicken is pretty cheapthere too. If you're around one, I suggest looking there too. Might save ya a few bucks, when they have shit on sale. I'm hittin' costco today to check them out. I know you can get eggs really cheap there. Thanks bro!
That's the "hardest" part. trying to consume enough protein.. I am going out this weekend to stock up on chicken, turkey, lean cuts of steak, eggs, and protein. I have some left, butthe stash is running low! Looking for a really good / inexpensive whey, any suggestions? On whey?
I always find one I like then go on amazon. If you search around you can find stuff a lot cheaper on there. I even get my pins off there 19c a peice
Looked in the supplements section fellaz, and found a post by brambo1 that had a link in it for protein. 37 servings for like 16 bucks I think.. I got 2 tubs on order, should be here in 2-4 days. Right now I am using up your mass, but I also wanted some whey isolate for quick absorption. IDK if the stuff I ordered was an isolate, but for the price I couldn't resist - so I got 70 servings for like 40. shipping and everything!! Check it out boys, go to supplements and look for the post by Brambo1. Thank you if you are reading this Brambo! Good find bro!
Buy it bulk; no fillers, sugars, additives and tastes like milk if left unflavored.
http://www.bulkfoods.com/whole-foods.asp?wholesale=4166
LOL Vik! i CAN DOO ETTT. Just hit my 2nd prop inj right now, bout to hit the gym! Have a good weekend everyone! Hit it hard! : P
GO FOR IT BRO YOU THE MAN!!!!!!!!!
I read thru most of these responses and I feel like I should give a small input (no i dont mean my dick):
To help qualify my opinion, I will share a little about me. I have over twelve years of experience giving giving shots, immunizations, running IV's ect...working in medicine provides you an opportunity to develope a certain ability to keep personal statistics on what works and what doesn't.
The thing i would say about overloading syringes to avoid multiple shots and not changng out needles that may get dulled or bent is this!
Just because nothing bad happened the last 2-10 times you did it,does't mean it won't!
When you push a needle thru stoppers or skin multiple times,it can dull that razor sharp beveled edge. It can also bend the tip of the needle (you may not notice it). Injecting large amounts of anything into your muscle can alway open the door to an abcess and if you havent googled abcess you may want to. I would never go more than 2cc's. But that may be because I have had an infection under my skin before and i will be damned if i want to go there again.
Do I break the rules sometimes (sure I do)...but I really do believe in teaching people to do things the right way and then let them fuckem up.
Mac
Thanks Jimmy. I am splitting it up into 2 injections, despite the fact that some people say it is ok to push 3ml of gear in one muscle @ a time. Honestly, I have a decent amount of pip where I hit the test e/deca in my right quad now and that was thursday, I did 1ml test e/1ml deca in the quad, then 1ml prop elsewhere. It is sore not only in the inj. spot, but actually the whole muscle. well specifically the vastus lateralis, and surprisingly the vastus medialis. I only hit the vastus lateralis. Any thoughts? anyone else ever feel that from a quad inj? Thanks! Almost forgot, a friend of mine warned me to always change the pin out, he said " It may not be visible to the naked eye-but almost everytime, either the tip gets dull, or - a very small portion of the needle actually breaks off!!" I didn't heed his warning, and either This pain in my quad is due to the actual dulling of the needle, OR just pushing too much shit into that particular muscle. only 2ml, but damn! It's tender!
NICE brother, this is what its all about
Thans viking...is that you in the pic you use for your icon?
This may help you, this site has been around for years learned a bunch from it when i first started around 03-04 time frame.
http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm
Thanks for that carmex, I looked at that site when first thinking of pinning. It was helpful, as to where to inject etc.- how to avoid arteries etc. but that's not really my concern/question. I do a lot of research before entering into anything new, and I was having a hard time finding info on mixing/injecting different oils - same syringe.. That was my main question, but thank you for your input! always appreciated.
I see, well i have been pinning about 8 years now about 3 cycles per year and usually long cycles. I have pinned cycles requiring 2 shots per week and did cycles of tren/dbol on short cycles that required pinning daily. therefore rotating to every muscle you can to keep it fresh and not build up scar tissue. It is OK to mix up to 3cc for the glutes, but i never go over 1cc for any other muscle, that is just my personal preference. You should not really have to do over 2cc at a time twice per week if your cycle is is correct. If you over do it your receptors will quit responding so keep it light, example: 1cc of test e stacked with 1cc of deca administered once on monday then again on Thursday, this keeps the blood levels even and prevent spikes and lows. NEVER use the same pin you draw with, use a 20g needle to draw (and you can draw from multiple vials with the 20g needle) then put the needle you intend to pin with back on i.e a 23g 1.5in for the glute. If you draw 2cc's and are pinning the delts or quads have an extra empty syringe, after you draw replace the draw pin with a 25g 1in or 5/8in pin for the delts, administer 1cc, you should have 1cc remaining in the syringe, cap the used pin unscrew it discard and replace the pin with the pin from the empty syringe you have and pin the other delt or quad with the remaining cc. Always discard used pins and never re-use. When pinning also make sure the alcohol is completely dry or you will get a sever bee sting from the pin, don't blow on the site but let it air dry good. As far as stacking oils in the same syringe, I have stacked them all at one time or another except for the tren, it has always been cycled as a stand alone shot. Test prop is usually not stacked either because of the frequency of the injection to maintain appropriate blood levels. Never stack water based stuff with oil based stuff like injectable winny , that is a no no. Very important to remember all the aas in the world wont make much of a difference if your diet is not correct for what your goals are.
I always use 1 1/2. 21g or 22g for my gluets. My back cramps up often so with 3cc I want it in faster. And 1" 23g for my quads and even with my Bi's and tri's
Nice back, I'm using the 1" 23g 3ml's for quads and delts. Never hit bis or tris.. hows that feel? I'm thinking it must be quite painful, no?
I don't hit my bi's and tri's to often mostly when I use synthol. But I do go into the tri's every so ofter with just 1cc and its no bad for me at all. The bicep is a little more involved depending on ur bf% there really is no reason you would need shoot ur bi's n tri's except with synthol and that's a whole nother animal. I would just stick to the glutes delt and quads. I did things when I was younger and didn't know any better that's why its so important to take advantage of these forums and the knowledge that some of these guys hav to offer I wish these forums were around when I first started. Good luck bro and get HUGE!!
Yeah back, I'm "sticking" to basics for right now when itcomes to inj. locations - quads, delts, and when i get the 1 1/2's I will try the glutes also. I doubtI will get HUGE from a simple test e/p deca cycle.. but I'm gonna try my ass off.
Basically, now that you've popped your cherry, you'll need to experiment with G sizes and lengths and see which ones work best for you. I'm very lean so i have no need for long pins. And I prefer them 25g. Most like 23G. You'll figure it out. Congrats on your first shot!
Thanks Nitti ! sure you will be seeing me around this community for a long time. I am going to get some 1 1/2's in the weeks to come, but for now I am just going to make the 1's work.
you got it bro
Makes me remember my first Pin LOL Scared shitless and still did the dead. That's what sets us apart the willingness to do more to be more, each little band-aid a badge of courage representing what you are willing to do that most people will not. Kick ass brother you did it! Welcome to the club.
Thanks G! I ain't gonna lie - I was a littttle bit apprehensive.. but never the less, I got it done ! and now that I did it correctly, with no issues, no veins, no blood, - thank god.- I will feel better next time. I kinda enjoy it, as wierd as that sounds, and I am NOT a fan of needles bro. I am glad to be a part of this community! Thanks for the warm welcome brother.
No1All that for a 1st cycle?
Correct brother. I use a loader (larger pin) to draw, then put a new 25g x 1" or 1 x 5/8" depending on location. It sounds odd but the ruber stopper will dull the needle. You want it to go as smoothly as possible
Yep! That's the way to be.
I always use alcohol wipes and band aids even when there is no sight of blood.
Rub the area and make sure to keep the needle in after a slooooooooow injection. Then pull out and cover and rub ASAP!
I usually shower right after a pin because of how my daily schedule works out but I'm starting to lean towards pinning after a shower for fear of losing juice and the bandaid always gets wet.
Also, start expiermenting between quads and ass because you really want to divide the shots up.
read this before you inject that shit: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?343692-How-To-Inject
Good find HJ. Upper outter quadrant of the cheek. I go delts as well
I don't change needles because it went into the rubber stopper? When i pen deca and test e, I draw both up in the same syring and run that shit. "Ain't notin to it, but to do it"!
Haha. true man I was all shook for no reason. but you know what runs through your head the first time you poke bro. I came outta the bedroom, and my girl said I was white as a sheet - L O L ! bUT MAN THAT WAS PRETTY SMOOTH! I aspirated too incase anyone was wondering. saw a few little bubbles burp up, and I was like oooh yeahhhh brotherrrr! ; P
i maybe wrong but with 1" needles, you are reduced to pinning shoulders and quads (no glutes). I believe, 1 1/2" pins are recommended for glutes. i am not sure what gage pin you're using but 25g are recommended for shoulders and 23g for quads, but these are only recommendations. as far as your question goes, i am pretty sure you can combine them all into one syringe because they all should be oil based, but let someone else chime in before you go pin yourself with my advice. i am assuming you are using prop to kickstart the test?
also, it is not recommended that you pin more that 1cc in shoulders, 2cc in thighs, and 3cc in glutes, but i am sure people have done alot more. how often you injecting each substance?
Sorry bro shoulda been more specific - I used a1 in. 23g 3ml bd . Iek will be inj the prop eod, and the deca n test e 2x week. thurs sat mon for the prop, and thurs/mon for the deca and test e. dosage will be pretty low seeing as this is my first inj. cycle. probably going to stay with 500/test e 250-300/deca (split into 2 inj per week on both - 250test e, and 125-150deca) and 100/prop(X3 inj per week) sund good? and do you think I will get good results with proper diet, and discipline? My diet is clean,and I go HARD @ the gym!
i would stay with the 500mg test e if this is your first cycle. how long you plan on running the prop?
1 bottle. just to kick brother. maybe drop the test e deca around 10 weeks, and pick back up with the deca, as to start running pct sooner. thoughts bro. thanks hardened. o btw, that name is FUCKING HILARIOUS!!
you supposed to run the test at least 2 weeks longer than the deca....unless you want deca dick. oh! and thanks...
True. well then I have to go back to the lab. LOL. I guess I could just run the prop to kick, then run the deca & test e weeks 1-10, drop deca week 10, then continue test e instead of switching to the prop. I can't see running the deca LESS than 10 weeks.
Hey guys thanks for the response. I just inj. 1cc of test e 1cc of deca both in( quad ) same syringe. I am about to inj. 1cc of prop in the delt.
im confused why did you not mix all three in the same syringe again?
3ml syringes - guess I could have done that. Not sure I could mix all of them together and inj 3cc into the old ham. Next time all 3 cc's into the quad?
glute is way easier, less issues can arise as well. i mix three all the time and in the same syringe. i do change the pin tho once because you have taken that first pin and stuck it in three rubber stoppers it gets dull.
issues? what do you mean?