test only cycle booyah!
So ive decided to run with sustanon 250 this time around. I still plan to start this cycle around July or August this will be sust only with an insanely high calorie dense diet. I was look at 1 of two options
500 mg a week 250 X2 a week Monday Thursday for 10 weeks total.
Ai will be administered if needed but I haven't needed one yet according to actually blood tests and no estro sides.
Or..... 125 mg ed for 10 weeks
Same with ai I get bloods before during and after every cycle I use adex if anyone is wondering
Now this one people tend to trip on me for but I've ran three prop cycles for 8 weeks pinning 75 mg ed for 8 weeks strait pinning doesn't bother me.
What do we think guys?
Stats currently (which I need to update)
Age:26
Height:5 foot 8
Weight: 202
Bf: 18.7 (yes I'm a fatass) lol
The goal is to hit a good solid 215 to 220 and gain as much strength as possible.
I've ran multiple compounds in the past
Anadrol
Masteron
Anavar
Dbol
Deca
All test esters .... this is not a specific order just listing them. I stay away from derivatives and stick with test these days less problems for me
Pct will be standard
Clomid/nolva
100/40 2 weeks
50/20 2 weeks!
I'm assuming with the decanoate ester the half life being as long as it is I would start pct a little bit longer than 14 days after last pin?
Thanks everyone!
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RustyhookerGiven the stats.....your goal of solid 215 wont happen this cycle. Lean out or bulk up. Not both.
Sust won't do much in 10 weeks. Long long esters. 12-14 easy.
There's the man I was waiting for!
So you don't think 12 pounds is do-able?
And I'll extend the cycle out to 12 to 14.
RustyhookerAdding 12 pounds on the scale...yes. lowering bf and adding 12 pounds...no. You'll fight both ends of the fire.
The food gurus can be a great assistance. If your food is big and clean the scale might not budge. But...you add 6pounds solid while dropping 6 pounds fat. Or just bulk, which then your bf wont budge much. I wish it was easy but its really all on your food choices and goals.
Catalyst in general has a food forum. Makwa and tonytulo have food forums. Thats where the real plans become solid.
Gotcha. I always clean the diet up during a cycle it's still a caloric surplus but it's more quality foods and carbs when I'm off I got nuts al kinds of bad shit
I'm going to run something similar sust/tbol in June. From the reading I've done a popular pinning schedule seems to be Mon/Wed/Fri every week. I think twice a week pinning will be a hormonal rollercoaster and create more sides.
Like said below proviron wouldn't be a bad addition to your cycle.
So I see that Alot about the stability of hormone levels on sust what don't understand is why it wouldn't be stable? It has the decanoate ester which is long as hell that and I thought the stuff was developed for a more stable blood level? I'm sure I'm wrong on that but in my mind that makes,sense to me
Read this https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/how-do-different-ester...
Then read it again.
Like I said above I was probably wrong with the thought. As it was illustrated in the post you gave. So .5 ml everyday would be optimal that's 875mg a weeK opposed to one week getting 750 mg and the next a gram
I've ran Sust one time at 2x a week and it was the only time I've had estro problems. You're not alone.
I haven't had any estro problems yet I ran test prop at 700 mg and dbol at 40 mg a day and didn't have any estro problems. My question was simply could I get away with pinning it like I would cyp or enanthate Monday Thursday 250 each day. But I'm open to an eod or ed pin schedule cause I've don't that in the past
Could you get away with it? Sure, but is it the best way probably not. People do everything their own way. Trial and error. If it works then it works.
I'll probably just do the .5 ed I mean I'm good with all injection sites my wife does my glutes and delts for me cause I can't reach them but I use glutes delts quads and biceps depending on the compound and the lats if I get desperate meaning sometimes by the time I get back to the first site if it doesn't feel right I'll hit the lat to give it another day.
If it was me I would go for the ED pinning or at very least eod. Twice weekly with Sust won't give you optimally stable enough test levels. Do watch your estro with blood work and use an ai if needed. 1000mg ew is a hefty dose and at about that level I would probably need an ai but that's me personally.
I've done 10 weeks pinning ED with no issues with proper sterile injection practises and site rotation so I see no issue here provided you do the same which I know your would :-).
One thought for you. How about adding 50mg of Proviron ED split dose. At 1000mg of test per week your SHBG is going to climb so you want to keep this low and maximise free T. If you can afford it I would 100% do this to ensure you get the most out of that dose and all the pinning. Would have the added benefit of controlling estro so it's possible no ai would be needed but still use blood work to confirm this.
As you say BF is a bit high with is not optimal. Make sure you eat clean to keep further fat accumulation to a minimum. Could use a fasted LISS cardio routine to help this but it is a bit counterproductive given your aim is to bulk. But that said if you only plan on running this cycle in July/August you have plenty of time to cut back to sub 15%.
PCT looks fine and I would start 3 weeks after last pin or better yet run a prop taper and extend the cycle to 12 weeks - so prop taper weeks 9 through 12 - be run th PCT 2/3 days after last prop pin. Never used GHRP-6 but I know some very experienced folk who swear by it but have always warned me on how hectic the hunger can get.
RustyhookerExcellent! !! Even var will kill appetite, at least for me and it frees test via sbh control
Thanks brother!
And I'm looking for that hunger these days hitting 4500 cals is kinda rough
My man I was leaning towards the ed pinning .5 ml ed honestly I do get frequent bloods so I am always watching the e2 and other key elements. I have like 6 boxes of adex on hand I buy the shit all the time just in case. As far as providing I will look into it do more research I got some time so I'm sure I could swing it
I forgot to mention I may add ghrp6 not quite sold on that yet but I'm playing with the idea