posted Sat, 05/12/2018 - 13:50
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TEST-E, EQ, NPP CYCLE
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I’m running test EQ, and NPP. Two weeks in.
600mg test E/ week
600mg EQ / week
300mg NPP/ week
Will start the NPP about half way through the cycle.
This is basically just an experiment guys.
I continue to try different combinations with different dosages. I will post updates at the end of the cycle. I
If anyone has ran this before I’d love to hear about your experience. This will be a 16 week cycle. Possibly increasing dosage of test and EQ further along in the cycle.
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Id drop the EQ. I ran EQ at 600 a week with 600 Test a week and hematocrit was insane. Be prepared to donate blood. There were times that I just did NOT feel well at all do to thick blood and such. I wont run EQ again. You have to run it at such high doses and for such a long time and even then, you dont see that good of results as what you were looking for. Plus, you have to worry about the dangers of it. Thick blood, high hematocrit ect.
RustyhookerAge: 29
Height: 6ft
Weight: 190
BF:
Eat more....less gear
You know, you don’t always know everyone’s story. I don’t know why some people love to just talk shit on here. I get what you’re saying, and you may be right. But let me just explain something to you. I suffered a very bad injury and then got really sick after that. I have a really high metabolism I was down to 140lbs. Once I healed I naturally got back up to 170 just by eating and training. It was hard for me to put on weight and break through the 170 mark. After running a cycle of test deca and small amount of dbol I got up to 190 and have maintained 190 off the gear for 6 months. I’m getting about 4200 calories a day right now witch is pretty hard for me and I’m trying. I’d like to get to 220 after this cycle I think I can do it. It’s hard for some guys to put on mass man. I don’t just rely on gear. But thanks for your input ! I don’t get why guys feel the need to hate on here. Does it bring you joy ?
dang man.. he wasting hating at all. literally the only thing he said was eat more.. and THAT hurt your feelings???
RustyhookerNot reading the trail of tears. Bugger off and run your cycle.
Yea that’s real cool let’s down vote the guy that just joined just for standing up for himself. It’s seeks like no one here actually wants to share their experience and help but instead talk shit and bully any new person that joins ? What am I doing wrong ? Holy shit
Rusty’s that uncle you always had that was less hands on then pops but would look at you at the family gathering; just shake his head. You then realized..
RustyhookerHuh? Lol!
Repping 390 at 5ft 4 is a lil hands on...
cim131313I agree with you to some extent. From what I know rusty is a straight forward dude and he gives great advice because he has a lot of experience no wonder is karma is like 4.7. He was not trying to talk crap he is always here to help man .
RustyhookerTelling you to up the diet and not run a ton of gear hurt your feelings? Really? Like youre gonna cry or something?
You been giving the same crap to all the folks replying. Id hate to see you during pct if youre a crybaby on just a forum. Lol
I was wondering the same thing. If hes this upset over someone telling him to just eat more, then I couldnt imagine what his PCT is like with the fluctuation of hormones.
AnonMy first self pics I was a shredded 6'2 and 180lbs. Rusty said "eat, A LOT" lol it didn't bother me. Rusty has his thoughts about diet and training. He's not wrong if gaining mass is the goal. It's constructive criticism. Those that get upset over being told that need to grow some harder bark.
RustyhookerOld forum but returned troll. Eating big for ectomorph is a huge deal. Guy i trained a while was up 5k cals every day. Got him up 5lbs. A 3 dsy weekend he went camping and lost it all. Lol! He stayed super shredded but never gonna be massive with that level of cal burn
Too late, he’s already on, and intending to jack up the amounts.
Every time I read shit like this it makes me appreciate Lee’s approach to things. Less gear = less of a balancing act = more time to focus on the weights and the food and more money in the account lol
RustyhookerHes trolling. Nothing new round here.
Yolo!!
Running Test E, Deca & EQ right now. I do expect issues later in the cycle and prepared to deal with them
That is my plan for my September run. I forsee BP and high hematocrit levels causing issues but going in orepared
I've ran test e, eq, DECA with anadrol.
Higher doses, longer duration
Thick blood, and crazy blood pressure issues, lots of head aches, very red complexion, I used letro as needed, I think week 16 I layed on couch in fetal position shaking and trembling for two days due to the blood pressure/ thick blood problems.
Yes I got massive and strong but looking back I regret and wouldn't do again.
Your cycle- npp is a waste and unnecessary jabbing.
I ran the same cycle minus the anadrol. Had to abort early do horrendous blood work results. My blood was like syrup. Felt awful, red face and blood shot eyes. It took a long time to recover from that. Worst my lipids ever got.
We're you donating blood on cycle? That will do wonders for the red blood cell increases notorious with EQ
Thank you ! I’m wondering if your blood pressure issues were mainly from the anadrol ? I know when I took anadrol it made me feel like shit all day. The EQ will add to that as well. I will defiantly keep an eye on blood pressure. I’m really cool with my doctor. She also used to be a bodybuilder so I go to her for all my blood work and check ups. It’s very helpful. Thanks for your input.
Eq is notorious for it, huge increase in RBC, in my case adding anadrol ( pulsed throughout) did not help obviously but eq does it to people on its own, blood tests and donating blood is a very wise move with it and baby asprin will prevent clotting if blood goes thick ( preventing prostoglandins from binding together)
Blood pressure issues are the number one thing to watch with eq, tell tale signs are headaches, red complexion, dizziness and red numb feet in the shower, its one of those drugs that will love you or hate you, 600 is the bare minimum dose IMO, and 16 weeks is bare minimum duration, week 12 is where it starts to shine.
Obviously the fact of mismatched esters has been bought up. What is your reason for npp at second half?
Yes I’m probably going to run the EQ and Test longer than 16 weeks the more I think about it. I feel like a lot of people say EQ is a weak drug but I don’t think they allow enough time to actually let it do it’s thing. The reason I chose NPP is purely for the fact that if I start getting unwanted sides that I cannot combat with the caber, aromasin, or Let , I would like to be able to just drop the NPP knowing it will get out of my body fast and I can just stay on the test and EQ.
Mast is far more superior than eq IMO.
And yes with eq besides RBC increase its a massive appetite booster, that really begins at about that week 12 mark, most don't run it long enough or high enough in dosage.
I really don't like the npp in your cycle.
Myself personally id piss the eq off and do a solid npp run with test, maybe add an oral.
Way less bull shit and likely way better results but that's just me..
I think I know what your thinking with it but its not gonna be like that because eq is lean mass anyway.
Mast p at back end is a hardener and conditioner making gains more hardened, crisper and defined not npp.
I know I’m new here so I’m not trying to disrespect anyone. But all I’m asking for is people that have already ran these compounds together and what their experience was. Like I said this is an experiment. This is my hobby. No disrespect but I don’t need to be “ schooled” by anyone. Just looking for guys that have tried this specific cycle already.
Building model airplanes is a hobby... when you're talking about health and safety that's another matter, that's why we don't condone "experiments"
Why not just go full yolo and experiment with tren without test next?
Jesus. I knew i would regret this shit. Everyone is such a genius and expert on here huh ? Like taking NPP and EQ is sooo crazy and never been done before. So annoying ok I get it you know more than me bud. So I’ll just throw this cycle in the garbage. What would you like me to take ? Also , you’re 41 years old and talking on a steroid forum. And most likely still taking steroids. So don’t preach to me about health and safety. And BODYBUILDING IS A HOBBY. if it’s not your profession than what is it ? Most would say hobby sir! That means I have a career outside of bodybuilding so therefore it is my hobby.
It's a lifestyle.. but anyways.
Yes I'm over 40 and the reason why I remain in such great health is I didn't do retarded shit or "experiments" (AAS related)
I did my own research (there wasn't much back then But I still found a few books and read them cover to cover) you kids have access to everything literally at your finger tips and you guys still want to "experiment"
So taking EQ and NPP is a retarded experiment? Even though many pro bodybuilders have taken the same exact cycle ? You’re not the only one that does research man. I honestly think You misunderstand me me but regardless let’s move on. I’d radther just be productive. If this cycle is a complete failure I will be honest and let you know! I love bodybuilding just like I’m sure you do. So why the arrogant and negative comments right from the beginning ? If you don’t like the cycle or haven’t taken it why even comment ? Stop acting so high and mighty man just because you have your way of thinking doesn’t mean it’s right.
Npp I know sounds so cool but to be up honest if deca wasn't good to you, npp will be the same. Less vascular, a little bigger, little water retention with it. Sex drive crasher. Swollen nipples. You might want to stick to test and your eq.
I actually manage to stay pretty lean on deca. The only reason I had issues with the last cycle is because I had a batch of fake aromasin. Once I got the right stuff and got my estrogen down a little I was fine. And ran the caber twice a week and felt great.
Ok fair enough. That's what I have seen over 20 years when people use deca and or npp with or without eq. Keep your blood pressure monitored frequently and make sure your hgb and hematocrit levels monitored. Give blood when high. Think about baby aspirin daily for heart and clot protection
Thanks bud
"I actually manage to stay pretty lean on deca"
well.... obviously you're not eating enough. But I'm sure that was supposed to be part of the experiment too huh?
What would be the reasoning behind raising the test E and EQ later in the cycle? I think you need to take a look at halflifes. Also just want to point out it takes several weeks for EQ to build in your system before you actually start seeing results.
I am quite aware of halflifes. I realize EQ takes a while to kick in. The only reason I may increase dosages is purely for experimental purposes. I may even stay on EQ longer than 16weeks. Basically I just want to experience it a higher dosage than 600mg. I have never gone higher than that.
Previous cycle experience ? If that's you in your pic edit out your face mate
Thank you. I blurred out my face. Yes I have ran a few cycles. Mainly test deca and dbol. Have yet to try NPP yet. I tend to have prolactin related sides when I run deca. I do have aromasin and caber on hand.