Test E / Deca Cycle - Some Questions.
Stats
Age: 28
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 88kg (Cut down a little since stats on profile)
Cycle:
1-14 Test E 600mg P/W
1-12 Deca 400mg P/W
AI / Other:
3 -12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Caber .25mg E3D - On Hand - Will get bloods at week 6 and start/adjust if sides appear
PCT:
Nolva 50/50/25/25
Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Questions & Concerns.
I've seen Deca dosed at 300mg and 400mg, I thought for my first time Deca 300mg would be best. I am very sensitive to gyno. Is this a wise choice?
I ran arimidex last cycle at a standard dose of .25mg EOD and even pushed it to .50mg EOD and my gyno stomped through it. Had to resort to Letro to control it.
I'm going with Aromasin this cycle, if I'm sensitive to gyno should I start it earlier than after the 2nd week when I've got Deca as well?
I've been told to run Caber 1-12 instead of just having it on hand, is this wise?
I think that sums up all my stupid questions, I'll have letro on hand for anything serious.
If I missed anything i'll try fix it up asap.
I won't be running this cycle for at least 3 months but I like to organise them 100% before starting.
EDIT: Just corrected Test to 14 weeks, I typed it in wrong the first time.
Put Deca up to 400mg
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If you are sensitive to gyno then you should probably start researching cycles with a low test base. Why put so much effort into fighting estrogen when you can just avoid it by not running heavily aromatizing compounds? I too fought estrogen because I bought into the idea that Test is best. I now run my test incredibly low and let the other compounds do the work.
RustyhookerAnyone catch the flaws in aro and caber timing and stop timing?
How many days til deca clears?
Tapering time?
Roidcalc.com
Aro I've always been told/read to start 2-3 weeks into cycle.
Caber i'll be honest I've ready a number of articles/posts and all of them have said 1-12 and Im not saying they are right, that's why I post here for support instead of being one of the guys posting in 6 weeks "Guys my nipples are leaking"
Roidcalc is down at the moment but thanks for the link I'll tweak my post when I get some better numbers
Great post. I found it best to drop deca from the cycle by week 10 and continue Test for a min of 2 more weeks.
If you can only run deca for 10wks you're better off running NPP. People underestimate how slowly deca builds.
I have stopped using Deca and NPP for the time being. I have used both Deca and NPP both used in low dose as joint therapy. For myself it works really well but it just masks the problems. Going to dial back the weight and work my ass off on leaning out. Love Deca but love my right shoulder even more.
That's the problem, it just masks it. I've had three rotator cuff repairs, same shoulder as yourself. Feels a lot better whilst on deca, maybe "too good" and makes me push it a little harder than I should. Pay for it afterwards when it starts playing up again.
X2 12 weeks would be the minimum imo
Very informative read thanks, I might do some more research into the other options. I really wanted to avoid pinning EOD but might be a good way to go thanks.
ALWAYS have multiple options for AI and gyno.If you are using research chems (jinto)
Always......
Yeah I've always tried to keep my options open on a cycle but I think I put too much faith into research chems instead of buying pharma. Which down in Australia can be very tricky.
Post BF%. If u are prone ro gynecomastia, Toremifene may be another choice for PCT, instead of Nolva. Aromasin dose and frequency look good. Just monitor for early signs and symptoms of high E2 and titrate dose and frequency, if needed.
Remember pre, mid and post cycle bloodwork, eapecially prolactin.
Caber looks good. Probably going to want to run it 2-3 weeks into PCT. Test:Deca ratio looks appropriate. Test needs to be ran two weeks longer than Deca.
Research Proviron for better use of testosterones.
Research hCG, since 19-nor is in cycle.
AnonCycle history? Goal for the cycle?
X2....