+ 1 Test E and Tbol cycle
Hey all, been around lurking this forum for awhile. But this will be my first post.
Tomorrow I start my first cycle of 600mg Test E a week
And 40mg of Tbol a day. This will be a 12 week cycle with the first 5 weeks with a Tbol kicker.
I have pharma grade arimidex, and pharma grade hcg for on cycle.
And also pharma grade nolva and clomid for pct.
Just wanted to post to let everyone know haha Im so excited!
Been killin it in the gym for about 7 years and recently the past year or so gains have been minimal. Im 34 years old 5'8 and about 165 pounds. When I started training I was skinny as a twig and have gained about 30 pounds over the years. My pre cycle bloods showed my Test to be 400 a little low for my age so I am hoping this cycle will help;)
Anyway its good to be here. Ill update and also do a cycle log as well.
Any comments from older experienced guys would be great!
Thanks
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@jellotrip also bro I believe gyno is caused by high estro am I wrong? So that would be a sign of high estro. I know high estro has other symptoms too such as bloating but gyno is my main concern just wanted to clear that up;)
AnonHigh estro can cause gyno, but so can other factors. What I mean is some guys estro can be sky high and gyno is never an issue. Just because your estro is high doesnt mean you will get gyno, but it greatly increases the risk. Hope I clarified that better.
Hit the "reply" button on the upper right hand of the person you want to respond to. Otherwise your comments end up top and it's a mess.
You can get gyno with no other high estro symptoms. Blood tests are really the only way to be sure. Stay on top of your AI and confirm with bloods. Otherwise you're just guessing.
@jellotrip thanks for the reply man. Just seems that the only time any someone responds is when I say or do something thats against the rules here. Its pretty annoying. Anyway I appreciate ur response. Im gonna get bloods done week 3 and week 6, since this is my first cycle, just to check my levels so I have a better idea on how to dose my arimidex. Anyway I appreciate the response.
AnonI understand, not always easy being new around here. But stick it out and you will find a wealth of knowledge on this site
Awesome!!!! Obviously my diet is so on point that u guys have nothing to add haha thats great news! Or maybe ur just butt hurt that I clearly have all my shit in check including my cycle that u dont feel the need to respond. I knew my diet was legit as well as my cycle:)
Why? Cause I do my research!:)
But hey no news is good news as I always say!
Yes u can tell I have done my research it feels so good when no one tries to correct me:))))
AnonTbol takes about 2 weeks to really kick in, and 40mg is on the low side of dosing. So you probably are getting a nice placebo effect this early. I would run it a minimum of 6 weeks, and play with the dosing after a week or so. More isn't always better but my first run with tbol was 40mg and I enjoyed it but definitely wanted more out of it. 60-80mg works best for me depending on the lab, just a suggestion.
No need to start the adex until maybe week 3 or 4, high estrogen symptoms and gyno symptoms are 2 different things. Just because your nips get a little puffy or sore doesn't mean you have gyno so either wait and get bloods or see how you feel in a couple weeks. Crashing your estro sucks.
And don't assume because no one responds to your posts that you are doing everything perfect, there is always room to improve.
Ok guys so I pinned my ass today for the first time. First I loaded the hcg into the slin pin. I had a little air in the end near the needle, so I gently pushed it out til a drop came out the needle. Then I cleaned off an area on my upper quad and went in. I didnt even feel it so thats a good sign but damn those slin pins are tiny. Then I cleaned it again with an alcohol swab.
Then it was time for my Test E 300mg in the ass. I loaded the syringe with a 22g (think Im gonna buy some 18gs) and the same thing happened I got an air bubble at the tip by the needle I even pulled back past the 1ml mark and still had air so I am pretty sure I didnt get the full dose but fuck it live and learn right? Ill get it right next time. I switched the needle to a 25g, then I pushed the plunger to get rid of the air til a drop came out the tip. Then in front of the mirror I cleaned off an area in the upper right side of my right ass cheek and with no hesitation pushed that bitch in...pffft didnt even hurt. But was annoying how long it took to get all the oil in. About 45 seconds. And then I was done. That shit didnt hurt one bit. It was more sore while pushing the oil in but it more or less reminded me of the feeling of getting a shot in my ass by the doctor when I was young. I cleaned both injection areas again with an alcohol swab. And that was it. My wife said I was upstairs for not even 5 min. Haha hope all other injections go this smooth.
After I came down stairs I popped 2 10mg Tbols and ate my pre workout meal. Maybe its just placebo but I killed it at the gym today I seriously felt better than I ever have. I know I shouldnt be feeling the Test yet. So maybe it was the Tbol? Most people I have talked to say they can feel the Tbol in 3 days but I def felt completely different, happier and waaaay more energy. My lifts were good as well. When I got home I showered and cleaned my injection spots again with an alcohol swab.
But I have 1 question when should I start to take my arimidex? I was thinking to take .25mg tomorrow and then E3D. I dont wanna crash my e2 but I also dont want to wait until I have gyno signs either. Also I have pharma grade arimidex and others who also have it from the same source said its strong as hell. Any thoughts on this?
@rolltide3 ok diet posted now I have to figure out how to upload a pic from my phone.
Ok guys so I deleted the other post sorry about that. And I took out the names of my sources. My bad Im new to this forum not used to censored boards haha and karma? Whats karma? Is that the numbers I see on my profile?
Thank u I gave u the karma back I took away. Post up your diet here and let's start there
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/diet-clinic-now-live
@cd1 was that a sarcastic comment? Haha just go away...? Just want to be clear. If there is something I am missing about my cycle or training or diet by all means please tell me. I would appreciate the feedback cause thats why I posted here. By the way why am I -1?
You came across as troll, if you are really interested in the site and gaining info then let's start again?
U posted the same thing twice...second time was after the first one was censored for source mentioning and yet you do it again...
Well my diet is on point. I consume about 3500 cals a day. 8 meals including shakes. Usually brown rice lean meats veggies and healthy fats. I train 5 days a week, 1 muscle group a day totally obliterating my muscles. Then I repeat. My body fat is between 10-12%. And this past week I was just getting into upping my cals back to 3500 after my pre cycle cut. Was on another board over the past year, and decided to join here as well. Learned a lot and def good to go at this point;) Thanks Ill check out the rules!
Sounds like you have it all worked out, guess it may be time for you to go away and put it all into practice.
READ THE RULES........... No source,lab,or product talk in open forum.
Before you jump on that cycle...
Tell us a bit about your current diet and training program.
Try not to just ask for info from old guys as that also won't set you off on the right foot when trying to gain info as some of the younger guys will also be very knowledgeable.
Have a bit of a lurk around some more in the rules section fella, no mention of a source in the open forum and your tread has it posted right at the heading