+ 2 Test e and masteron prop for 2nd cycle
So I was gonna do a test & deca cycle for my second go around but a lot of people from here gave me good advice to not do it.. So I'm gonna take it and jump toTest E & Mast Prop
30 years old, 2nd cycle, 5 8' 228 lbs 15% bf
Start 9/1/16-11/24/16
Pct 12/5/16-1/2/17
500 mg test e for 1-12 weeks
600 mg mast weeks 6-12 m-w-f
Aromasin 12.5 mg e3d
Pct 2 weeks after test..Nolvadex 20/20/20/20 Clomid 150 day 1 and then 100/100/50/50
Mk-2886 while on pct at 15mg a day
I calculated my macros for the most gains for during cycle and pct
Also going to run creatine during, threw and after cycle
I have milk thistle, hawthorne berry, red yeast rice, fish oil and my multivitamin for on cycle support from day 1 to 4 weeks after pct
What types of gains am I looking at with this cycle??? And other input would be great however, Let me know what you guys think
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Why the mast and why mast P??? I see absolutely no point in incorporating the mast in this cycle for what your goals are.
Creatine.....waste of money while on cycle....great during PCT and off cycle though.
Aromasin at 12.5mg e3d and is that going to be enough??? What did you run for AI your last cycle? If you are going to use asin, get your dosing ED with that. I have tried it EOD but I definitely felt better with ED dosing. The swings in estro are noticeable to me anyway if I don't do ED dosing.
Dump the Ostarine during PCT unless you have ran it before and are absolutely sure it won't shut you down.. Osta is suppressive for many people.
Bottom line for where you are at and what you are trying to do, just run a test e cycle with some provi and maybe try a test p kick and/or taper.
I've used the ostarine in October last cycle. Felt great and lost no gains on it, kept strength up, last cycle I ran aromasin at 12.5 mg twice a week and I was perfect oath no estrogen sides and creatine can be adjusted
As long as it works for you that is cool.
Glad you posted this up before starting....
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BONYou didn't say what's your goals. Also what are you looking to gain from doing this cycle? What's you meal plain gone to be?
10-12 lbs is my goal to gain but dry gains 40 40 20 are my meals in macros
What's your BMR? 342g/200-256g/120g (p/c/f) this is a better macros for a second cycle that can help you decrease BF% and gain some muscle. I've seen you on here before and you sound knowledgeable. Incorporate a little cardio 1-2x/week for 20-30 minutes. How is your metabolism?
Listen to Med to help get your diet lined up for your cycle and you should get some good gains from it.
So hiu don't think the 40/40/20 approach is good?
I don't use percentages, I use grams because it's easier to calculate. What's the 40/40/20? I learn something new here everyday...lol:) Teach me, please!!
its mg 40mg/40mg.....
RustyhookerYour cycle and plan needs work. It's going to cause you grief. How bout priors? Goal?
My prior was a test e cycle consisting of same type of pct and ancillaries 10-12 lbs are my goals of dry gains
You can use your daily calories and macros to gain and keep 10-12 lbs. You can either get some experience on your 2nd cycle using Proviron, or repeat a standard single compound Test cycle, while focusing on daily calories and macros.
I'm gonna check other sources for it
Do you know what Masteron does? You won't gain anything from it at 15% bf
Yea it's supposed to give you a nice chiseled look however it also really helps the test really shine and helps you be more anabolic
Diet before drugs, bro...
Correct when you are at 8% bf, at 15% you will notice nothing. Most people will tell you even 10% is to high to bother with it because you won't notice anything at all. It's going to make your muscles look harder. But at 15% you have fat on them and you can't see them anyways.
Do you think the gains I get from test e will be less watery looking becasue of the mast?
Yes, but proviron will work, too. It's just as effective and probably a better choice for a second cycle. It binds to shbg and acts as an AI.
Wow that sounds real good however my source doesn't carry it
Thought about Winstrol?
Not really trying to run orals.. Thank you though for the info