Test E 1700mg/week?!
I know it sounds crazy to run 1700mg a week of test e, but with my cycle being forced to end early and no way of keeping what's left over for next time... Are there any PROS to running it this high?
I have all the proper ancillaries to block the unwanted sides and I have 5 cycles under my belt - with some cycles running test as high as 1000mg/week - so I'm not just falling victim of the more juice = more gains fallacy.
My diet is on point and up until this point I have been able to use my current cycle (test e 1000mg/eq 700mg) as a cutter quite successfully.
So would it be best to bump up to 1700 for the last 5 weeks and use up what I got left over? Or bump up to a lower amount and toss what's left? Any experience you guys have is much appreciated.
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AnonI don't think it's worth it bro... In 5 weeks I think the gain you get on what your running now compared to bumping it another 700mgs isn't worth the sides. I know you have the ancillaries but you'll be combating that water look you don't want.
Also take into consideration your PCT and recovery time. Half life.... Once you stop your serum levels will be higher longer with a mega dose like that which slows your recovery with a dose at 1000mg a week your looking at 6 weeks to have normal levels after half lives. If you have to travel your probably not going to want to take ancillaries and pct with you. You'll want to recover and go after PCT.
Risk vs. Reward I don't think you'll be rewarded toward your ultimate lean goal any more by bumping it like that. I honestly am not sure I saw much difference when I bumped 750 to 1000mgs. I feel like 750 works great for me. But everyone responds differently.
Your looking for opinions and my honest opinion is keep it where it's at and toss the rest. Test is cheap... Good luck bro.
Thanks bro, very much appreciated. I think you make a lot of really good points but I figured that it would be 6 full weeks for levels to return to normal after half lives, which is why I'm running mast two weeks after last test inj to bridge to pct. Then for 4 weeks the typical protocol of nolva clomid and I'm including aromisin as well.
In my honest opinion I think this gear is a bit under dosed to begin with. Having said that, I've done enough research to know that 1700mg is a ridiculous amount to consider even for the more experienced users...
I am simply searching for someone out there who could share their personal experiences going above 1000mg (not people who know of other people that might have had high dose cycles.)
I think its pretty obvious my willingness to go above 1000mg only exists because of time constraints. I've never had too much gear on hand, but that's what it's looking like for me right now.
I appreciate all constructive criticism, but my goal is to pack on clean and lean mass. I'm striving for the hard vascular and separated look. I'm not looking to blow up and carry that sloppy water weight look that most bros have while "on". If my goal was to go for an all out bulk id easily be up over 220lbs and still be under 10% bf.
RustyhookerI save my leftovers......I'm not behind the idea.
Anonsimply put: you weigh 190 pounds at 5'9!.. you need FOOD not 2 grams of test a week
Either way you're wasting it! Unless you can save or hide it or leave it with a trusted friend for future use. If you throw it away you wasting it but if you inject that much you'll be wasting it with a chance of messing your self up. Personally if I couldn't store it I'd choose the safe route and chuck it. In the grand scheme of things test is cheap and hell with recommended off cycle time if you can't come up with the money to do a proper cycle you shouldn't be doing it in the first place!
1700mg isn't the safest approach and personally I would advise against it. I do however know a couple higher level competitors personally which run amounts like this on a weekly basis and some even highers.
I like to refer to them as "mega-dosers". The one I know really well runs amount near 3k grams a week during his bulk and he claims there is a huge difference when upping dosages to this level.
All of these people see this as a career pathway later down the road and have no care or worry for there future health. The same guy also takes upwards of 200mg dbol ed which is I would call HIGHLY dangerous.
It depends on your goals I guess but I would assume most of the higher level pros(olympia competitors) run dosages that most of us would think was a joke or exaggeration if someone actually told us.
Your approach to AAS worries me. You're a young guy, this idea shouldn't even be on the table let alone a serious consideration.
So here I am researching like crazy and reading reading reading; and thought the lowest amount of test that you can use to maximize gains was the answer. I guess I was doing it wrong and should be hitting 5000mg a week. 25 years old and borderlining a nice set of hooters? Some of the vets here run the least amount possible (less then 1000mg a week) and still gain like fucking monsters. I guess they are wrong too?
AnonNo real benefit in it, just an increase in sides. Toss it or give to a friend
I have an ill family member overseas and I don't want to take anything with me on the plane, plus I don't want to disrespect them by bringing it in their house. I guess I can leave it behind but with my sneaky ass roommate I'd like to avoid him coming across it and over reacting so I would rather just take it all if I can handle it.
Based on what revenge85 said I think 1200 is the next step and if that's manageable I can progress up to 15 next week if needed. Looks like ill have leftovers, just gotta decide what to do with them. I'd rather not feel like shit for an entire week so going overboard won't be an option.
lol, I wasnt recommending you to do this, simply stating my experience!!!! 1200 is ALOT, its not needed! I only ran it like that as I was running deca @ 600, and I like doing the 2-1 ratio of test to deca! and I should add I did have issues mid cycle!!! mental issues, estro issues and blood pressure issues!! unless your getting bloods done before, durin and after, and unless you have experience in managing high estrogen and gyno, I wouldn't do it if I were you!!!!
so you wasnt looking for an answer just a co-signer huh. Good luck with that,
Hope you have low expectations!
my last cycle I was running 1200mgs test e a week in my stack, one week by accident I pinned 1800mgs and I felt like shit!!! for that whole week!!! no point bro. my test was dosed at 600mgs per ml, I was doing 2mls of that a week, mixed with other stuff, and accidentally drew up another ml of test so it was 1800mgs! that's the highest ive ever done!! 750 should be the sweet spot at the stage your at
Good to know. Thanks for the input much appreciated!
noted above ^^^^^^^^^ 750 IS THE SWEET SPOT!!!! at your experience.
theres really no benefit in it, just throw away or use next cycle what you got left.
aylmejorWhy can't you keep what's left over??
Stats: 25 5'9" 190lbs 8% bf