posted Mon, 06/04/2012 - 09:42
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+ 2 test dosage for high tren/low test cycle?
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I wanna run tren at 500mg/wk, what do you think I should run my test at? 250mg, 300mg,400mg,500mg? Any input is appreciated!
25yrs old
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i ran tren ace at 700mg/week and test prop at 210mg/week
i curious how tren ace 700mg/week and test enanthate 500/mg week will treat me, being that the test is higher and a lot of ppl claim more sides at higher test dosages
First thing, you're a little young to ride train. That being said, you're probably gonna do it anyways. 50mg Tren ace Ed is where you need to start. That's 350mg/week. I've ran higher doses of test while cycling Tren, but lately I've started to come around to the lower test dose idea and have had great results. The idea is that the lower test won't compete with receptor sites as much, thus increasing the efficacy of the Tren. I'm currently at 500mg/ week of test E. Ran at 1000mg/week several times but 500mg seems to work just as well.
shoxingbiceps17ran tren twice before, bloods are fine so im not worried. ive ran higher than 350, 425 to be exact, but that was with a high dose of test 750mg, sides were terrible. im gonna run the tren at 500mg/wk and the test at 250mg/wk
My fault, I thought this was your first Tren cycle. You seem to be on top of things. Guys your age can be way ahead of the game than when I was 25 because of sites like this. I don't think I had even heard of trenbalone when I was 25. Good luck with your cycle bro.
shoxingbiceps17Thanks bro!
I would run test at twice as much.
leeboyTest prop 50mg EOD, tren ace 100mg Daily, could also add mast prop at 100mg EOD. Great lean gain cycle right there!
DarksideSix700mg of tren a week?? horrible advice man, especially with masteron. masteron increases the ability of the other compounds. 100EOD of all 3 is what most people use. no need for all that tren
leeboyMasteron actually tends to help with tren sides, and just because you maybe cant handle high tren doesnt mean the OP cant. only way to know is experiment for himself, 700 tren weekly will always be better than 300 if you dont get bad sides.
That's just an absolutely assanign comment right there. You don't blow the hell out of it by starting high and seeing what happens. Start off where everyone else does and go from there. I've ran multiple cycles of Tren and 100mg ed is too much for me, and I'm a fucking beast! That's just bad advice dude.
DarksideSixi always run Tren higher.....thats where the results are!
here is why,
Test and Tren are both highly androgenic and compete for the same androgen receptor but because Tren is 5 times stronger than test it will beat Test to the receptors so you could essentially run about 300mg of test and run the tren at a higher dose or you can continue to run your test at the higher dose and tren lower depending on what your goals are.
We only have so many receptors in our body, roughly, they die off and re grow all the time. Different types of receptors are in specific areas of our body, mostly. androgen, estrogen a shitload of them. Once we fill up the androgen receptor the rest of the medication is wasted, it doesnt do anything.
Since I want the tren gains, dry lean huge vascular gains, I want the tren to attach to more recptors than the test right? its a synergistic effect in one nice formula, and the best one AAS wise.
So running 4-600 tren (i know guys that say the real size gains from tren are up around 7-800mg shooting 100 or so daily) with 300 test is great.
These guys run low dose test with it, just enough for normal activities, we dont need any anabolic or androgenic muscle building effects from it, we have the tren for that.
This will actually leave you less prone to side effects, since high prolactin is usually associated with high estro.
shoxingbiceps17well appreciated advice and facts. thanks bro!
I-Omegarun test at 250-300 a week and you'll be fine. that's a nice cycle, one of my fav's!
shoxingbiceps17you think 500mg/wk tren is too low?
I've ran tren up to 400mg/wk but that was when I was running test at 700mg/wk
I-Omegano bro, 500 is a good number, you don't need a lot of test....just let the tren do it's work. i always run tren higher than test.
You need to pick your own dose. Everyone is different. Last time I ran tren E I ran 750mg EW. My friend runs 400mg pr week. You have to find dose you can handle.
couldnt agree more !!
Usually the 1st thing you need to have correct is your food intake,work out plan locked in and followed to the tee,and gettting good sleep but @ 25 the 1st thing you need is bail money set aside. I couldnt imagine doing tren at 25 I would have killed someone,There would be holes all over my house, and the neighbors would all run inside when I walked out of my house. The sides are crazy. I hope your ready for them. If this is your 1st time running tren make sure your running tren A. I made the mistake of running tren E 1st time and stopped cycle early because sides sucked so bad. It took forever for sides to go away. With tren A 4 days your good. Make sure you have AI,PCT, and caber. If you have a wife or girlfriend you might as well tell her you are going to run tren and its going to turn you in to a dick. Also tell them to watch out for you while you sleep. I can get very violent while I am sleeping and a lot of people have very crazy dreams. Things you have to look forward to is very little sleep(I slept fine), ANGER (when I get made I stay mad I cant get over it for hours), Night sweats(I had night sweats so bad when I woke up I could slap the covers and it would splash), Mind not right very weird( I would have conversations in my head while talking to someone else. It was like a dream was going on in my head but I was wide awake. I am sure this can get very scary if you let it), and of coarse wanting to have sex all the time and when having sex going crazy long times with out finishing. Everyone is different and react different. Just be ready for the worst. I am 37 and have years of learning that to back down is the answer but when I am on tren it is very hard not to crush someone. I carry a pistol every where I go all the time except when I am on tren. Gun stays in safe while I am on tren.
shoxingbiceps17Trust me I understand the sides, I have experienced them all and HATE the sides with a passion. But in the end I feel, not being myself for 12weeks is worth the gains I get from tren haha this will be my third time with tren and i will be running tren e. Funny thing is, I told my gf that I would put my everyday carry pistol in the safe as well, too many close calls last time with me not thinking clearly and jumping to conclusions :/ I get scared for myself/others every time I start a tren cycle...have you ever heard of using lithium carbonate on cycle? its suppose to help with bipolar disorder...im gonna try it this cycle and see if it helps
Sounds like we are on same page. I know what lithium is I am guessing that is the same. I have known several people on it and I dont think I would fuck with the shit. It would be cool if it levels you out though on tren. I think taking the least amount of drugs possible is the way to go. on my last cycle it was tren test and with it I took arimidex and Milk Thistle and that it. There is stuff to stop most of the sides but I think that just makes your body process more shit. So I deal with sides.
shoxingbiceps17I know a few people who swear by it, but then again everyone is different. I agree less drugs the better. So you don't use any caber or bromo?
I never needed it. I have caber ready but never took any.
shoxingbiceps17Gotcha.
juiceinator70mg prop eod has my dick still alive.
you could get away with 100mg/w, the lower the test the better, sides wise, and thats the reason for running it low. Your probably not gonna be pounding ass ED but it will be fine for once every 4 days 200mg/w would be my max recommendation
shoxingbiceps17Im thinking ill probably do 200mg. I wanna do more tren, but I have plenty of cycles ahead of me to try more
at your age, 500mgs is probly the safest. i get good solid gains running 1:1 ratio tren/test. lower test/tren should be for vets ONLY !!
Why would it be for vets only when in some cases it promotes less sides?
it just my personal opinion bro, someone like me simply can not handle the sides or higher tren lower test. everyone is different, i just know what works for me !!
Oh okay haha, everybody's different!
some people experience less sides running lower test but not me. in fact, last time i ran tren i expected to be bold after i was done but instead my hair got thicker and healthier, now tell me that isn't weird lol !!
The only way I will do tren is with lower test than tren. Its the only way to go in my book. I think you can run more tren and have less sides with low test and ED injections.
That's what I'm saying
shoxingbiceps17What would you recommend my test dosage be if im running 500mg/wk tren?
Try some where from 100 - 200 a week. Everybody is different but most people usually do around those dosages.
shoxingbiceps17Bc 200 is a typical TRT dosage I think I would feel comfortable with that amount
thanks guys. This whole high tren/low test could be a nice REVOLUTION for me haha
Sounds good man, let us know how it goes.