posted Mon, 06/11/2012 - 09:25
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+ 1 Critque my Tbol/Test E/Tren E Cycle
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6th Cycle
25yrs old
6'0"
208lbs
10%bf
Goal= 215-220lbs 8%bf
Weeks 1-4 Tbol 50mg
Weeks 1-10 Tren E 500mg/wk
Weeks 1-12 Test E 250mg/wk
Weeks 14-18 PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20 or 20/20/20/20 (I've heard not to use Nolva in PCT with tren/deca? Even though I always have)
Clomid 100/100/100/50
Aromasin will be used 12.5mg EOD (ED if sides appear)
Caber will be used .5mg E3D
Gyno prone so I will use these no matter if I need them or not. (safe than sorry)
Should/could I extend my test 2 weeks longer to 14 weeks? (Give the tren enough time to clear my system COMPLETELY?)
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tread-mRN has you fixed up and I actually have to habd it to you on the cycle lay out. I do see experience in the layout I really do, the problem for me is the number of birthdays you have had brother. If this is going to be your life and living its one thing but 6 cycles at 25 yrs old and tren by 25 I have to ask myself, where will you be in a year or 5? This is not an insane stack or anything in fact its pretty tame but the tren is just early for me. Having siad so I think you'll do as you will and if you were 30 at 6 cycles and laid this out I'm in but....good layout just hope you have some experience in those 6 or I would run the ace. As to goal maybe look to the mirror more than the scale. Ok lastly, if you have never ran tren and you insist on doing so I think I recommend a low dose ace/eq/prop run. Very very effective mild stack done right and if the kitchen. Is in line you freak show on it and likely meet the goal here. Kitchen of course is the goal but again, that in line I see good things for the goal you have laid out.
shoxingbiceps17Yea trust me, runnin gear, especially tren 2 times, so much and so early was VERY stupid of me, luckily I had some very experienced friends help me get through the cycles without major harm/side effects (after they gave me hell for running tren so early). Besides the side effects, it's hard to run tren once and not want to run it again, as I'm sure you know it can be addicting due to the amazing gains one receives. I appreciate the advice and thoughts you shared though!
its gonna be a challenge to drop 2% and gain 12 pounds but not impossible. With those goals in mind I would run the t-bol for 6 weeks. also might consider some Hcg at 500mg/w say weeks 10 threw 13. your PCT will be fine at week 14.
shoxingbiceps17preciate the advice, I will probably run the tbol for 6weeks instead, thanks
Before you start a cycle you make a plan. This plan should be followed. Everyone that is in middle or end of cycle thinks about adding to there cycle. Everyone want more and more AAS make more gains. This isn't the case stick to your plan. Save the adds for another cycle.
shoxingbiceps17If I wanted to add some tbol at the end of my cycle, could I? and when? weeks 10-14?
ofcourse you COULD, you could do what ever you want! The question is would it be worth it and the answer would be no! I would never advise someone to use an oral bulker at the end of any cycle, only a cutter or hardener. The reason for this is because when the body puts on weight it needs time to adjust to that weight, the longer you keep that weight and build muscle on it the better chances you have at keeping it. the only exceptions would be someone who is using it as a preworkout or someone that it using it for added strength such as a powerlifter.
shoxingbiceps17Roger that bro. Just had some left over that will expire soon, prob just sell them then. Thanks
zewiLooks good bro—The reason why you shouldn’t run Nolva with Tren/Deca at the same time is cause it can make Gyno worse. You already have an AI so you’re good and the Tren E will be out of your system before you start your PCT. However, I have always liked the shorter Tren A because if the effects hit me hard, I can always stop and be good after 3 days were TREN E will take longer, to fix an effect. As for running the TEST 2 weeks longer--it wouldn't hurt anything. Can't wait to here the results..
shoxingbiceps17I wouldnt be running the Nolva WITH the tren, just in PCT. But I do agree with tren ace and controlling the sides better, but the only reason I chose tren e was to make the cycle simpler, pin less, and pin same day as test e.