posted Fri, 01/25/2013 - 15:08
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test boosting cycle (Dont Laugh)
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Never have taken any AAS and dont plan to till im atleast 26 27. I'm only 23, I do take peptides, which are great because they work with the body and not outside the body.
I plan on getting before and after bloodwork as well.
current supps would be the BB essentials
Vit. d3
ZMA
fish oil
creatine
protien sup
swell drink for cellular swell & anabolism intra workout (bcaa's)
peptides
Soon as i get some money in hand I want to cycle this stack to push a superphysiological boost in test
clomid + DAA+ nettle root (w/pinepollen) with a possible addition of 25 mg DHEA (probably on the next cycle i do this with)
if you have any thoughts plz drop a line..or paragraph or two
Yea budyyyy
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Here's an article you might find useful. Its a study of AI's ability to increase T levels. Only difference is that they used letrozole instead of clomid.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/90/10/5717.full
I should note that letro is very powerful drug. I have read as little as .25mg a day can boost T levels above 1100.
southernmuscle615wow no shit.. i was actually thinking about swaping the clomid for letro anyways..
I would just ride natty and save the money for steaks,rice and eggs. DAA has a lot of hype behind it, as it should because of a few human replicated studies raising test. But there seems to be quite a few studies that shows it not only increases testosterone but also progesterone, estrogen and has shown to increase aromatase action. Making that newly found test to become estro.
Unless your diagnosed low, your prolly just fine.
Take your d3,cranberry,citrulline malate and fish oil. Maybe throw in some lauric acid and carnitine.
southernmuscle615well that stack definetly wont my test levels soaring, but it will definietly boost my test to its full potential.
Many people have taken clomid to boost test if its under 500 with good results, plus it being an AI, it will help keep the test from aromtising..DAA i belive works like HCG in some similar way.
I didnt know it boosted progesterone, that could be good actually senes that will convert into more testosterone and not esrogen sense i have the AI
I know its a long shot but will see
You will need to increase your fat and cholesterol intake substantially. Which means good egg yolks (high omega 3's no soy in the feed) and coconut oil. At least 6 yolks a day and min 2 Tbl oil. Cholesterol is what your body converts into testosterone, so stimulating your natural production means you'll need the materials present for the conversion. The good fats like grass fed beef, pastured whole milk + butter are supper anti-inflammatory and will keep your arteries clean as a whistle actually lower your BF and boost your energy. Check it out for yourself.
southernmuscle615thanks. thats makes sense
southernmuscle615yea ive heard the horror side effects people have on clomid but at only 25 mg..there should be little to none side effetcs..and those side effects are subjective anyways..
But DHEA isn't really considred a prohormone, otherwise i wouldnt be touching it..
some people talk about getting shut down on it, but I dont think you can
I can post rep studies on DAA ramping up test, clomid will also help by LH and also keep estrogen at bay, while the nettle root will free up bound testosterone..pine pollen is an androgeinc bonus.
along with Vit D3 which is natures best steroid. Im trying to achieve maximal output. I'll run this for about 2 months maybe 3..still researching
skalpad-aspartic acid doesnt do much bro, read up on the methalayted version of it. N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid (NMDA) is wayyyy better dude. ive tyried both and daa doesnt do shit for me, on nmda i was RAGIN hard every morning wanting to fuck anything that moved, it actually frightened me abit how strong the shit was for being OTC. you have to fuck or wack it like 5/6 times a day just to keep yourself from goin nuts. lol
Anondhea as in a prohormone? you're playing with fire bro.. go natty and show them boys at the gym how it's really done. forget prohormones and most test boosters are gonna be a waste of your money. clomid would be about the only test booster i would recommend for you.
skalpadhea is a prohromone? i thought it was just a supp. ...OP, test boosters are a waste bro, by the time your old enough for them to even remotely work you can just take the real thing for less $$$. ..hey dossier, what do you mean by using clomid as a test booster?? young guys cna just run clomid by itsself?????
Anonnot sure if it's a PH or not. i'm really not keen on them... dhea is a steroid hormone by nature. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydroepiandrosterone you're right that there are supps with the same name. so, i was really sort of asking him what he was planning on getting ahold of.
as for clomid, it is not an exogenous hormone. rather it is a compound that will stimulate gonadatropin hormone synthesis (LH & FSH), which will in turn stimulate the testes to produce more test. in fact, studies have shown it to be an effective alternative to trt. it was just a thought
If I remember correctly its an actual hormone which is naturally found in the body same as testosterone so I imagine if one takes dhea for an extended amount and high enough doses it would alter natural production. Damn doss you always in top of things! +1 for being a big part of this community and helping everyone out!
AnonExactly!
skalpawell ive read clomid makes you feel like shit after cycle, all "12 y/o girl" haha like start crying during titanic and shit. so i wouldn't want that, and also does it facilitate the release of lh and fsh to a degree where the extra test would really make that much more of a difference? more than a otc test booster? especially when we are speaking of young guys utilizing it who already have higher range test levels?
AnonThat was most likely due to either estrogen crash or rebound. Where did you read that?
And, how do you think the test booster are functioning? It is these hormones that drive natty test bro. There are numerous ways to stimulate the release.
skalpaone of the other forums on "pct topics" i think their protocol was 300mg the first day and 100mg next two weeks, 50mg next two. the OP was talking bout how he got teared up watching movies with his girl n shit. and got all emotional and whatnot over nothing. im sure it had to be affected by recently comming off AAS but i still wouldnt want to be actin like a chick just for a little test boost
AnonLol. Yeah, I feel ya there. I'd be willing to bet it was estrogen related tho. I don't have blood work to back this but I ran clomid trying to boost my natty test before pulling the trigger on AAS. I had no neg sides. My issue was a deminished sex drive that was putting a strain on my relationship. But once again, no blood work to back up anything. Without blood work, who's to say that the clomid I had was even legit? Know what I'm saying?
skalpathe think is, i read alot about how alot of guys dont like running deca for instance because of the reduced libido and such. but, shit! i could fucking use a libido drop haha. i could use that to my advantage, being horny as fuck all the time kinda gets in the way of workouts and staying on track.