Tbol/ test e/ winny
Alright bros I am in full on planning mode for my next cycle.
Cycle experience
1) test e- 500 mg week 12 weeks oral winny 4 weeks
2) test e- 500 mg week 12 weeks bridge to pct with inject winny 50 mg day wk 12-16
3) sust- 500 mg wk 12 npp 10 weeks bridged with test prop to pct
For this cycle I am looking to regain the hardness, vascularity and definition I used to have with a good increase in lbm. I haven't cycled in a year and took some time off from the gym but the muscle mass is still there. I plan on cutting to at least 6% bf before even starting the cycle. I have about 4 pct more to cut so hopefully about 7 weeks I will be ready to start.
This is my lay out as of right now.
1-4) tbol 50 mg day
1-12) test e 600 mg/ week
10-14)winstrol 50mg/day
Nolva & clomid pct
What cycle supports do you guys recommend I always use milk thistle, Hawthorne berries along with my usual multi vitamins and fish oil.
Also anyone ever tried the tbol kick with the winny finish?
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AnonOk
Test e 1-12 500 mg
Mast e 1-12 400 mg
Anavar 6-12 80 mg
Thats if your bf is low as you say.... a simple cycle and will get you hard as a rock and vascular
I've been considering mast. Is it as effective as winny for hardening? Also would this cycle work with winny in place of the var? I love the way winstrol makes me feel haha
AnonReally u jumped into juice and its compounds a bit fast.. shoulda used test only atleast first 2 cycles but too late for that talk....mast is great....winny has some joint pain invovled is why i advised var
I did test only for my first cycle just didn't list it. I haven't had joint issues with winny thus far but that could always change.
Are you talking injectable or oral winstrol? If you are talking oral it's a bad idea. Never I mean never run two orals in a cylcle. It puts wat to much stress on your liver especially winstrol.
Since tbol is so mild and there would be 6 weeks btwn I thought icould do orals. But I'm not opposed to injectable.
Regardless of tbol being mild you never run two orals it puts stress on your liver and that is one thing you don't want to do. Damage to your liver is irreversible and to much damage will ultimately lead to death.
That's good enough reasons for me. One oral it is.
scootertrampBridge suggests never off cycle. Are you trt or you want to be?
Time on + pct = time off. How's your blood tests?
I'm 25 will be 26 by the time I start the cycle. Recovered really well after all my cycles and retained almost all gains. My ai will be adex. I haven't heard of the gastro issues before. My reasons for choosing tbol over something like dbol is that I don't want to blow up like ppl do with dbol or anadrol also I've heard rumors tbol is slightly better than others for your liver. Is there any other kick start options? Should I maybe just do prop to start?
Tbol is definetely way easier on your liver than dbol or abombs. You may likely not have any negative sides from it. I ran tbol for a few weeks last fall and never had an issue. Prop would be an excellent kicker and is generally the norm. You'll just have to pin much more frequently the first couple weeks. If that's not something you're prepared for, stick with the tbol.
Frequent injections don't bother me, how much prop should I start with if I will be at 600 for test e?
How old are you brother? Tbol has been known to cause gastrointestinal issues and acid reflux in some guys. Might keep that in mind. What do you have planned as your AI? You've got your liver supps lined out, which is essential when running orals especially winny. How was your recovery on your second cycle with the winny bridge into pct?
i ran a google search on it and this pooped up....
"I have never had any issues like that with Turanabol. You should be fine.
My tip is to stack some testosterone along side of it. You will look
and feel and gain much better."
how the fuck is this a tip???? its a fucking order... hate other sites....
really? oh shit. i have bad acid reflux. genetics. my dad and brother have it bad too. and i was planning a tbol run......... sucks.
I have full blown GI issues. On any given day, I could have blood coming out one end. Tbol never fucks me up. Everyone is different and this is my experience.
good to know brah.