posted Fri, 11/14/2014 - 18:48
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switch from sust to test c
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Just wanted some feedback from experienced guys. I have been logging my sustanon cycle on here and I am 5 weeks into a 10 week cycle. I will admit that I am not even sure the gains are worth the hormone and mood roller coaster ride. What if I switched to test cypinate 250 (2x week) for the last 4 -5 weeks? Can you switch gears like that? And if I did, should I wait 2 weeks for pct rather than 3 I was planning with Sust? Thanks bros
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Thanks everyone. Good feedback!
To answer all your questions: yes.
You'll notice a slight shift in your moods etc as plasma hormones level off with the single ester. But overall, you'll be fine and msg like the change. Two weeks for pct would apply bc the long ester in the blend will have phased out. Look into possibly using a modified prop taper leading into pct. Last two weeks could look like this:
1) 75 mg eod
2) 50 mg eod
Pct starts 3 days later.
(This is two week gap following last long ester pin and pct)
What exactly is the prop taper? You can do this for 2 weeks after last test c pin then wait 3 days and start pct? What.if I.can't get.that.stuff? Thanks man!
That's right. Run it at a reducing rate over the 2 weeks then pct 3 days after. If you can't get it, don't worry about it. The long esters will still be in your system. Your not going to drop off a cliff with regards to your test levels
Thanks yeah I guess I mainly want to continue making solid gains. Do I put sust down cold turkey and just continue w test c in place. Figure blood levels from sustanon should stay high enough b4 cyp kicks in. Maybe a final high.dose 600mg sustanon blast then go to regulation 250x2 with the test c for the remaining 4 weeks or so? Looks like test c is the only other compound I can get now.
Drop it cold turkey and start the cyp. You'll be just fine.
Could I benefit from doing double dose (2ml) of sustanon on my final sust pin Thursday, then run the last 4 weeks of test c 250x2?
You have 4 weeks from last sust pin for the ester to clear.
Why are you so stuck on the sust?
Just trying to get my money's worth. Lol. And I haven't secured the test c yet. Thought I could give blood plasma levels a nice jolt before a say goodbye to sustanon possible forr good:)
I wouldn't, considering you'll only be contributing to the instability that has you wanting to drop it in the first place. Not to mention create the need for longer time frame for pct to start.
Point well taken! So the sustanon esters will do there thing while I.wait for cyp to kick in and not miss a beat?
Yes. The cyp will go to work immediately. As the estered test compounds in your blood, the various esters making up the blend will phase out.
Thank you sir!
X2. I've done it and it worked fine. No issues at all.
RustyhookerSust is tricky. What's your pinning schedule on sust? Dose? Yes you can switch but let's see what we can modify. Sust is fun for a more experienced user. Have you run bloods to adjust ai? Are you on ai? What ai? Dose?
Lots more here than pin and magic
I was pinning the sust at 150mg mon/wed/fri. Sides were.bad with mood.swings and I only felt bloat. Decided to go to 300 mg 2xweek and added arimidex .5mg eod. Those changes did.improve.things. Though I.think I.need the stability of a testc. I knew this from the.start problem was I couldn't get it 5 weeks.ago.and started sustanon. Stuff is working got a little.bigger and stronger but don't.feel that sense of well being.
RustyhookerPrivatemdlabs.com is one blood tester. Female hormone panel is $60 and exactly like males. Dust is very different. Cyp or enanthate is mellower on ups and downs for newer folks. Easier. Mon/Thurs pins and eat/lift. Doss has good plan up top for your taper. Bloods will map your estradiol. Get you in the right zone. Then the feeling of happy will follow.
Thanks a lot was trying to give thumbs up. I'd love to get hormone profile but may need help reading it. So is 5 weeks enough time to switch gears? Unfortunately cannot pass 10 weeks cause of christmas travel."happy will follow" I like that! Who's Doss? Thanks Rustey
RustyhookerDoss above runs the beginners group. He's a smart dude on here. Try to get bloods done too. Estro can play a key role in gains and how you "feel". Well worth the money to map your body. It'll prove that what you feel is right or wrong. Takes out guessing.
I got the bloods. First thing Monday morning of week 6, so it was about 4 days since the last pin. Here are the numbers. Total test: 887 ng/dl. Free test: 256 pg/ml. Estradiol: 30.7 pg/ml. What do you think? I am in week 8 now and about to switch to cyp til week 11. Thanks bro
Awesome man. I'd like to send friend request. I got doc appointment next week and will request blood work. If I post in here would some guys know how to interpret cause I don't know much about it? I am posting everything I can about it in my cycle log w weekly updates. Talk soon
Yeah throw up the bloods. These guys were more than helpful when I posted bloods