Sustanon looking for a 1st proper cycle
Age 40
Height 182cm
Weight 100kg
Diet: Pretty eclectic, work full time, studying for PgD, gyms a good destresser. Eating around 3500 calories a day on balance. Have plenty of space to shed calories
Gym consists of alternate days CV (some 80/85% some recovery) and Upper body, random night shift dictate rest days
Looking to do a 12 week cycle of 250ml Sustanon, 10mls a week
PCT
Looking at 30 days of TAMOXIFEN CITRATE 1 tablet a day. Starting 2 weeks after last inject
I have taken a lower dose of sustanon previously over a protracted period of time with no "obvious" side affects, until i came off it, back, shoulders and chest erupted in acne.
Looking to get the sust in a more coherent cycle as I'm looking to use It long term. It helps with gym motivation, sleeping and sex drive, just don't want to mess myself over by not including some pct
Any help appreciated
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Ill have a look into blast and cruising, but I'm a bit wary of starting something that doesn't give me an out.
I have been mulling with the idea of going to my GP and getting some bloods done to see if my own levels are messed up. One out of curiosity the other of trying to get it subscription over the counter (for peace of mind). Only problem would be getting a sympathic GP (don't have GP at the moment) . The other being once I've described my day to day (which is ecletic) routine his/her reaction is pretty much going to be that's the reason I'm fucked.
I've been training since I was a boy, I don't min/max my work outs. I train to leave the gym devastated unless my body's shouting out for a recovery session.
I've already done a few months on sust (at only 1ml a week) and felt great with it (once i got my injection protocol waved off). Although I didn't do a pct but was told I don't need to for such a low dose
If you've already done one cc a week then you're kinda on a cruise method. I agree on the gym being the best stress buster for you! But doing a full cycle would be best IMO when you're done with the PhD program. Then you're more into a regular schedule where hitting the gym hard and keeping meals on time is a lot easier. So i guess what needs to be known is will your schedule allow that added dedication? In forums there's the old dudes lounge for guys like us. Lots of info on blast n cruise...blood work etc. This decision is yours....im of the opinion that you'd get twice the results and joy out of a good cycle with less outside distractions.
Cheers, I'll have a bit more of a read around, tbh as this years progresses time is just going to get more precious. I think at the least the blast n cruise is definatley worth me looking into. Cheers for the pointers will check out the old mans section
AnonIn my opinion sust, cyp, prop, whatever if you do a propper dose and pin acording to ester which is really only diffrence then its all good for first cycle. Only diff is some gives more water retention than others abd some kick faster. So im guessin there is a diff now and people were fibbing prior to me and alot of others.
well if you have low T and ur planning on running test for a very long period of time, you should research blast and cruising. you can do it for the rest of your life if you wanted. theres nop need for pct while doing that, you would start your cycle as normal and once the cycle ends just taper down the dose to about 150mg to 200mg a week, perfefebly test e or c. to cruise on sus would just be silly. but this option is only if you have low T and plan on useing test for the rest of your life. i mean you could run for 6 months and you MIGHT recover but i highly doubt it. tht would need to be an intense pct with high doses and probly 6 weeks instead of 4. but since you are 40 you can consider blast and cruising. so you do your cycle at normal dosages then drop down at end of cycle and cruise for the amount of time your cycle was and then ypu can hit a blast again of high dosages. hope this helps. theres plenty of people who know alot about black an cruising on here, i kno the basics but not in depth info. you can run hcg also while blast an cruising to keep the boys dropped.
Sustanon isn't good for proper first cycle in my opinion. The release of each ester requires more frequent injections. First run cycles are test enanthate or cyp. Their more stable in the body.
Research the forums thoroughly and think hard before you cycle. When im in school for nursing my workouts suffer sometimes. I think with your schedule and intermittant gym times a good solid eating program is more beneficial for you.
AnonThis is true,but if he doesnt mind eod injections them go for it. Sust is great too by the way . Love it
Yes. Just looked at his schedule and with his work/school i just didn't see a realistic cycle. If he can cram in a solid meal..shots at least biweekly plus the two hours hard in gym then he's set. Pct would be easy.
sgtstedankoCompletely agree, fast. Sust is a no go for a 1st cycle. If he reacts/ed poorly to something, how would he know what/which it were. Test e, or c. If he really wants to pin, prop. Sust, maybe for a second or 3rd...
AnonIm not arguing , but this comment contradicts what,ive heard to many times, Test Is Test! Sust is just different tests which in so many words is the same , right or now am I going to hear someone say thats wrong! Please feel me in
I was just looking at sust for even future cycles. We were on the thread the other day wondering about the same question. When i was young and sust was new it looked great as a once a week dose....then it was proposed as every five days.....couple years ago it moved to biweekly. Some on here use eod.. Sust is a good mix and has many accolades. But there's also been complaints on fluctuations. So I'm curious as to is it by individual, or dosing (biweekly vs eod), or the actual individual Esters.
AnonMy best results and experience came at eod inj.
Nice! A few guys on here are doing it that way and it seemed to be more level for them.
AnonYep
sgtstedankoTest is test. But I've read some relatively rare cases of people reacting poorly to different tests, say e, or c, etc, etc, etc. Test is test, but sust, is actually tests. Sust is not for a 1st. That's just my opinion. Besides that's too much gear for dudes 1st cycle. .
AnonWell said.
He's working on PHD program...so waiting to see more on his schedule. Im borderline hyper so I'm fine with less sleep. Need more info. Lol