posted Fri, 06/28/2019 - 01:44
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Sustanon 350 + Tren E combination
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Hi Guys,
I have some Tren Enanthate 200 (10ml) and the Sustanon 350 (20ml) on hand + anastrazole, Clomid and a HCG for a PCT and I'm just wondering how to get the most of this cycle whlie keeping it safe. My idea was starting with 500 Sustanon split to a two injections a week, together with 100 Tren per week and possibly increasing tren later accordingly. I would use some good advices from more experienced guys as its my first Tren experience, so I have a lot of respect :-)
P.S. also PCT advices are reputable. + I'd like to know how to properly dose Anastrazole on cycle to keep my Estrogen low and libido high.
thanks for your advices, guys!
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Never mind he just came off cycle 2 weeks ago. I'd say take a break, pct and focus on gym and food.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^yup
I agree with Eagles. Plus no mention of caber. Though at 100mg Tren you can't expect to see a lot of results. Do some thinking and come up wit ha real cycle!
nitetricks73200mgs would be the minimum.
Pcushion100mg given ester weight isn’t worth the trouble, but at 200mg the results will indeed be present IF his tren is quality. I run it at 200mg and get exceptional results. People lost respect for trenbolone and when they did the AAS world starting seeing horrible side effects. At some point people decided to label 400mg as a starting dose and said either deal with the side effects or don’t take it. I would like to see more EXPERIENCED AAS users ground themselves and try doses of 100-200mg week and just see if their opinion on dosing and reports of side effects change. I believe even the most intolerant users might find success leaving the high doses alone. We all know the AAS rating system doesn’t always translate to result, but we know with tren 500:500 is very real. If someone proposes 2,000mg of test that doesn’t fly but 400mg of tren is the norm. This is just food for thought.
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PcushionI have tried the injectable and the difference between injectable over oral is night and day. With tren I don’t get irritable, lethargy or cramps. I crave carbs but not really sugar. For me the only downside is endurance I am shitnthat category. I think it’s overrated in the sense of it being the most glorious thing ever created as some make it out to be. I also can see it not being nearly as beneficial to a power lifter like yourself. I can totally see why anadrol inject would be far more preferable. In my circumstance I am always looking for dry very lean muscle which is why I believe tren is what I prefer.
Never had to go above 200mg of tren e a week.
That stuff hits me hard!!
You and me both.
My thoughts exactly- especially when you factor in ester weight. 100mg of Enth is nothing. Looks like someone got one free vial in a promo and are trying to figure out who to use it.
Its debateable whether you'd even get a build up from 100mg a week ...
I agree 100%. It's a waste of time in my opinion.
basskiller89Sign me up for that cycle lol
Cycle history?
Prolactin isn’t addressed at all
Little more info man
Need a lot me information on your training history, cycle history, goals, stats etc. to provide useful, actionable info.
X2 got me by 30seconds, seems the cycle is a bit advanced at this time for the op
Agreed 100%. It looks like something that way thrown together without much thought. "I've got one vial of this and two vials of that...lets mix it together and see what happens".
Down below he said he does 3 cycles a year 8-12 weeks. So basically year round cycling. He doesnt need advice he needs to take a break.
Wow, yeah recovery is the most important thing for him no question.
Drop the tren for future use
There’s plenty on gains to be made on 500mg weekly sustanon alone
DobermannAnstrozole needs blood work to dial in properly.as far as sustanon goes it needs to be pinned more often for blood levles to stay stable.i prefer everyday or every2nd day.but agian my cycles are more advanced than urs at this point.
I would advice you try cypionate or enanthate where you can get Away with 2 injections weekly.
krutajanHi, thanks for advice. Regarding that blood work - how do I deduce how much Anastrozole should I take daily according to the results?
I don't mind injecting EoD, I was running propionate previously and it was fine. I just had finished Enanthate two weeks ago and I did not felt that good actually
DobermannHow much test undoing?350mg a week is not that high of a dose.if u dont have history of gyno i wont bother using AI.
For me on every 500mg of test i do .25mg AI monday wendsy and friday.and get blood work and u wanna be around 25 or 30level not too low,or u will crash estro and not get any gains.u need estro for proper body balance.
Use the magnigying glass up top theres plenty of talk in forums on AI use man.
DivineHthis kid is a mess bro dont even bother!
The Sustan is a slightly more advanced blend.
I recommend this reading
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/sustanon-and-...
krutajanHi, I have read this before, but I'm not if I fully understand that - probably its because my English is not perfect.... Is he saying that frontloading Idea means that I should start with two injections in two days and then continue with every other day injection till the bottles are empty? still the same dose?
I tried Susta for the first time. 700mg/ week with two injections.
I had E2 to the stars ( 117.1 )
See https://www.eroids.com/pics/para-sust-ans-para-proviron-promo-blood-test
On many forums I have read that the Susta is used more as a TRT.
If I could go back, I wouldn't do it again. I prefer cypionat or enant , as many members recommend .
I don't know how your Estro reacts.
Have you done Blood tests in the past?
How many cycles you ran before?
Based on what you have wrote, you really shouldn’t start this cycle.
Sust needs to be pinned more than twice a week.
Tren e for a first go round with Tren is bad idea.
If you can’t cope with the mental sides it’s going to stay longer in your system because of the enthanate Ester.
krutajanHey, that's why I'm asking for an advice... I run three eight to twelve week cycles with just testosterone prop / enanthate + turinabol + clenbuterol.
Fair enough mate.
What’s your goal for this cycle?
I reckon save the Tren and research optimal pinning schedule for sustanon and post what u find on here and we can help you some more.
krutajanI'd like to gain some mass as I'm on a diet last two months and I should be about 7-8%BF when starting the cycle.I also want to keep (boost) my libido a bit and avoid any serious side effects. Regarding Sustanon, I've read few articles about dosing and there's plenty of information while ones say its ok to inject once weekly, some say you should do that for example Monday + Thursday and there are also some protocols saying that you should load that 2days in a row and then EoD...
I find that people do better with more frequent injections of sust .. ie EOD or E3D
mass is gained in the kitchen
7-8% is a great starting point for a bulk.
My preference with sust is every other day injections, so you can take full advantage of the test prop.
In terms of your ai (anastrozle) only blood work will tell you how much you need to use, in my opinion sust is an advanced compound because of how hard it is to get the ai dose correct.
krutajanAight, that would make sense to me too. How about adding very little of Tren E to that cycle? I've also planned to do 1mg of anastrozole / day because I'm quite sensitive to gynecomastia...
I wouldn’t use the Tren for a few cycles yet.
Some people struggle getting enough food down on Tren and considering your bulking, it can be counter productive.
Tren really shines while cutting in my opinion.
That’s a lot of anastrozole for only 500mg of sust per week. Have u ever had blood work on cycle to see how your Estrogen reacts?
krutajanOne more question, can I just go to my doctor and ask him for a blood test? will that not be suspicious for her? Should I visit private laboratory instead or how m'I supposed to get that results while on cycle?
Depends what country your in, private labs are usually the easiest way to get bloods.
I wouldn’t go the doctors but you might have a good enough relationship with him/her to ask your doctor
krutajanAllright, I see. Do you think that 20% surplus over mine 16500Kj maintenance calories would not be enough to put 100mg of tren to my cycle weekly? I usually had no problem eating clean about 19-20k when bulking, using plenty of oats and pennaut butter in my fruit smoothies so if true is that the tren increase apetite then there should be no problem for me to eat all that... Regarding question about blood test - nope. I just started taking Anastrozole cause I started feeling my breasts itch and I felt quite down sexually too, when I was running Testosterone Enanthate alone.
16500 calories a day?
You are obviously set on using the Tren, I’m not going to give you any advice regarding g that because I feel you would be better off without it mate.
krutajan16500 KiloJoules a day, that's approx 4k calories. I just ordered it and have it already so it would be a pity not to use that at least for a try because I wanna not take AS during winter to detox my body and heal my hormones so it would stay in a drawer unused quite long... But I got your point so I'll think about keeping it.
You basically have a pharmacy on hand and you don't know how to use it?
Crazy
You want to run a 19nor, you’re 28 years old and didn’t even mention anything about a cabaser to counteract prolactin issues. Drop the gear, research and while you’re researchinb, eat more. The same type of people join within days and ask to run advanced cycles in their 20s.
krutajanC'mon my diet is on point, I'm working out 4 years already, I have 97kg, 186cm, 9% bodyfat. Keeping eyes on the macros, supplementation and everything. I'm just a quite newbie to a roids and that's why I'm asking for an avice, that you should've gave me instead of hating...