posted Thu, 11/07/2013 - 06:41
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Sust 250 and deca 300 for a first cycle....
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I have a few guys here at the gym that are saying that this combo would be a great first cycle, they are suggesting that this be pinned one time a week for a first cycle for 20 weeks. I know I need to do alot of research before I decide to take the plunge.
They are stating that the sust and deca combo will do everything I am looking for. I am looking to gain some lean mass and reduce bodyfat...then again who isn't.
I am just seeing what everyone elses opinion is on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Good to know.... my guy said he'd take em back and substitute it with test e....I think I'll go that route.... is that a better route for a first cycle?
yes test e would be an ideal first cycle ran between 250 and 300mg a week. test is the foundation for almost all BB cycles. also it gives you baseline at how you will respond to test and how you will grow. at least your first 3 cycles should be test only, than later start adding one compound at a time, only one at a time, this way you will get a feel for a new compound, learn how you tolerate, if you can, and the sides if you have them. by adding more than one new compound at atime you risk if something goes wrong not knowing which compound is casuing the problem. if this happens you got no option but to drop all the new compounds which can be a huge waste of money, time and risk to your health.
Here is the reason I chose sust 250 and DECA 300.....I got 2 of each free....if I omit the DECA is 1 pin a week of the sust ok...or forget it and go with something else?....like I have stated before....blood work this coming week and I don't plan to pin till March.....
Thanks in advance
sustanon has short, medium and long ester test in it. it was originally created for TRT once every two week shot if i remeber right. although running it for a cycle, i would suggest every 3 day pin schedule to have the most stable blood levels. the up down roller coaster effect some get from sust is because of the pin schedule. your test peaks and whanes quicks with the short and medium and than you feel low but still have long ester in ya, food for thought for ya. also keep in mind many sides related to test are because of blood level stability.
I have scheduled blood work for next week. I do not plan to begin until March. I want to research alot more before making the plunge. I do know that while doing the training the 21yr olds are staying 21yrs old every year, I keep getting older ... lol... I want to be able to keep up...
Good job scheduling labs and planning in advance....keep up the good work.
No specific branch, I did contracting / security....and I train guys that are sandbox bound on the side in firearms, H2H, gunshot wound basics, etc....getting shot at is now over rated. Currently running our family business.
Awesome!! I have a cousin that use to do that in Quantico. Have you gotten blood work, yet? Guys are right down below regarding nandrolone decanoate and sustanon.
What branch? Good info down below....you can get some BF calipers at a local nutrition store, or on line.
+3 to greg and oldhead.............. got this OP sorted good style with a test only first run.
Thanks guys for keeping it real
Do not listen to your friends.
Listen to oldhead, continue the research, dial in your diet, and line up some PCT.
Know what your BF% is.
It would not be a bad idea to get your test levels checked before you start (blood test)
My first cycle was 500mg test e (250 on monday and thursday) for 12 weeks. I was very happy with the results.
Moved to steroid cycles section.
I appreciate the responses. Maybe I will sit out on the deca and just run test for the first cycle, and go 12 weeks.
Good choice and you won't be disappointed
get all your other components in check and you will have fun.
Blended test tend to be inconsistent. If you're planning on test only for 12 weeks put the sust aside and get some test e or c.
IMO your first cycle should be about knowledge more than about gains. one ester, one compound.
Great advice as always. Knowledge is the biggest key to running cycles.
Welcome Delta. Like oldhead below I disagree. Those two compounds would be some of the worse to run for a first time cycle. Sustanon is truly a tricky compound do to the balance of release times. Deca has its own issues that you must be aware of. If you are looking into Deca for its joint benefits then I understand that draw but even then there is more you must know. Here is a link to a group with some of the most experienced guys on this site and they will answer and help you build a good and successful cycle if you would like. Also you won;t have to be afraid to ask questions.
http://www.eroids.com/og/all-aas-users-welcome
HCG could be lined up, was told to use this every 4 days for 16 days..... a total of 4 pins after the cycle.
Is sust 250 ok to pin twice a week for a first cycle or should I pin 1x a week like they are saying. I am reading all over this site to pin at least 2x a week. and run test only for a first cycle...
I am so confused as to the differences from here to the guys at the gym. I just want to do it right.
Thanks for the reply.
I would disagree with your friends. I would suggest a straight up test cycle. Like test e or c 500 mg split twice a week. Sust should be pinned at least eod or minimum twice a week from my experience. No need for the Deca 1st cycle IMO, you will get good gains off test for first cycle. Make sure you have your AI and Pct all lined up prior to starting. Also 20 weeks maybe a little excessive for 1st cycle, I think 12 would be good.
Ps- more Deca then test is probably a bad idea unless you like a limp dick.. Lol