Strength plateau while on cycle?
So I've dont two cycles since last September, and am one month into my third, and it seems as if my strenght gains are leveling out. I've added more calories, to an already high calorie clean diet. I've tried changing up my workouts and while I see minimal gains in strength and size, Its not what I would expect from the amount I am dosing. I was almost wondering If I am either becoming resistant to the compounds, or two my source is underdosing, which I dont think that, but you never know. Any ideas on something im missing is greatly appreciated.
My current cycle:
Anadrol 130mg ED weeks 1 - 5
Test C @ 750mg W weeks 1 - 16
Nandrolone Deca @ 300mg W weeks 1 - 8
Tren A @ 75 ED weeks 8 - 16
I know this seems long for the Tren and I will be overlapping two 19 Nor's but I've done it before while monitoring my liver with the 5 panel test and never seen anything out of the ordinary on the results surprisingly, so I kept pushin on.
My current stats:
Weight 194.5 as of today
Height 5' 11"
Arms 18 1/4" maybe 18 1/2 without pump, lol
Waist 31"
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TO CLEARFOCUS YOUR CYCLE IS VERY HARDCORE ALMOST INSANE ANDROL 3 50MG TABS A DAY AND TREN 75MGS A DAY THEN 3 SHOTS TEST C PER WEEK AND DECA 300 MG PER WEEK . I HAVE GAINED 30 POUNDS IN 6 WEEKS WITH QNE ANDROL PER DAY AND DECA 300 ONCE A WEEK.I THINK YOU SHOULD UP YOU CALORIES TO 600O PER DAY ALSO CHANGE WORK OUTS TO SHOCK BODY TO GROW I HAVE NEVER SEEN A CYCLE LIKE THAT BRO GET SECOND TEST FOR LIVER AT DIF. LAB
Eh, I wouldn't think its too crazy. I've seen a couple guys do a bit more. And my lab is my reg doc's lab and im inclined to trust it, but if my eyes start turnin yellow then I'll be a bit leary, lol. I'll be changing my routine more consistantly and getting started on an AI and hopefully see some changes in gains..
Anonhttp://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/estrogen-and-test
read this also
Wow, very interesting. I'll be adding in an AI asap. Ty very much!!
Anonhow much rest are you getting and how often do you change your routine?
I get enough sleep, about 8-10 hrs a night. I dont often change up my routine, but I have recently.
Anonyour muscles adapt fairly quickly to routines, you need to change them to keep the muscles from adapting. Adaptation = no growth.
I was not referring to how much sleep you get .. but how much rest your muscle groups get.
Well, I would think enough, my Monday is just repeated on Thursday, and Tuesday on Friday, Wednesday on Saturday. And I would guess adaptation probably contributes as well as the globulin.
Best way to get past strength plateau......completely switch up workouts for three Weeks. If going heavy...switch back to sets of 12. Overtraining also sets boundaries.
zewiSo your 4 weeks. Wait 2 more weeks you will fill a kick..
and this is your 3rd cycle and your running tren, deca, anadrol and test c is that 4 different compounds--where is your AI whats your PCT??????????????? wow.....um..settle down zewi..
And I was thinking with the Anadrol that the gains would kick in faster. I forgot to mention I also frontload with each cycle. Im seeing results, and I am aggressive in the gym, I just would have guessed gains would be as quick as they were with the other cycles.
zewinever like Anadrol as a kicker--to me it only works for 2 weeks. I like D-bol or TEST-p for the kick. I really believe in about 2 weeks you will feel another kick i wouldn't worry about it.
Just have you liver supplements running and you should be good to go.
Right on, Ill give it some more time before I bump it up to 2000mg test a week, lol. JK
Im sorry for the confusion, let me clarify. I have done 3 cycles since last September, not three cycles during my lifetime. I have cycled on and off for about six years. This last year has been my most recent, and most dedicated group of cycles. I have dostinex, and Nolva, and can readily get arimidex if needed. So far sides haven't been an issue yet. I know with DHT derivitives I tend to get acne, and get moody, but thats about it. I dont get gyno, but my nipples do get sore sometimes, but no lumps or swelling.
zewiOk Uncle zewi is settled now.. Wait about 2 more weeks you will fill another kick. As for an AI i would start one I like Arimidex .25mg e3d keeps bloating down and any extra estrogen in check, so you don't get sides. Never understood fighting sides when you see them.
Well, one reason I'd rather not take them before hand because prevention rather then treatment makes sense, is because I have read/heard that the AI's and Serms can reduce the AR binding affinity of your compounds. But my original question is more geared toward the platau. I am concerned about sides, but at this time it hasn't presented itself as an issue, and hasn't in the past, and I'd hate to take something unnecessary that will ultimately inhibit my gains.
zewiChange your workout routine will help also.. Your muscles get used to the same thing, change it up. Diet Diet Diet.. make sure your doing cardio.
that's why i said a low does of Arimidix that AR binding you will not have to worry about. Your producing enough estrogen trust me, if your nipples get sore, you have estrogen in your body right at the point before sides kick in. The AI will help, and it will also help so you have more floating test.
Oh, wow, thanks for the info. I didn't realize the AI could help free up some test. Thankyou!
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Im sorry, im new to the lingo here X2 at Zewi.... I am guessing you agree with his advice?
Yes, X2 means times two on what he said. After you clarified a few things and have more cycle experience than previously known, I agree that you should feel another kick in 2 weeks or so. Keep us posted.
Will do, thanks for the advice guys!!
Hey bro, if you are cautious you would photoshop your face out of the pic.
Oh ya, ty!!
No worries......Are you at least using caber or prami when running these two 19nors? Prolactin is a motherfucker bro. Hope you know what you are doing.
I've got Dostinex on hand but I'd rather not take anything unless start to see unwanted sides and atm I'm not seeing anything negative. I believe less is more. I've heard you can negatively affect the AR binding affinity of the compounds by adding some of the AI's, Serms, etc. when they aren't absolutely necessary. When a need is shown for it, Ill take it, unless there are some reasons I am unaware of that would prompt me to do so.