-4 Started first cycle Test E (Questions)
Hi this is my first cycle of Test E. For this cycle my goal is to put on around 10-15lbs of lean mass, anything extra would be a benefit.
My current stats: 5'9, 182 lbs 15% bf
The items I have for this cycle:
2 bottles Test E 250
1 bottle of HCG 5000 IU
Arimidex
Nolvadex
Clomid
I started my first pin Friday night. I plan on doing two injections twice per week for a 10 week cycle maybe extend it slightly longer.
I have a few questions regarding my cycle since I have already started:
I have not started my HCG or my Arimidex since I have done my first injection. I've seen a lot of different responses from doing my research. I would like to know what week should I start my arimidex as of right now there is no gyno issues. I've heard the best scenario would be to wait until week 4 to see if any gyno symptoms flare up and I just want to be sure if this is the correct approach waiting until week 4 or I could start my arimidex tommorow at 0.25mg every 3 days.
For the HCG, I haven't started it yet and planned to possibly not use it for this cycle. However, if I noticed bad shrinkage near the end of this cycle, then I would do a blast last 10 days of cycle and 4 days before PCT starts. I have the HCG on hand, I'd like to know if this would be an OK approach or should I start it now at 250 IU 2x/per week. Like I said, the original plan was maybe to not use it unless I noticed bad shrinkage then would do a blast.
On a side note, I was thinking of maybe pinning once every 4 days. So I would do 1CC of 250ml of Test E every 4 days. I would like to know if that would be an ok approach to make the cycle last slightly longer since it takes a decent time to kick in anyway. Or if I should just do two injections every 3.5 days.
My PCT will consist of:
Clomid: 50/50/50/25
Nolvadex: 30/20/20/20
DAA (natural test booster)
I hope you guys could give me some good advice on the questions I asked regarding my cycle. Once I have those questions answered I will put a cycle log up! Thank you for taking the time to read!
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I've come to the conclusion that anyone under the age of 25 will get turned down in this forum. Appreciate everyone's advice and honesty with me. I was being honest with you guys, telling my age and stats etc. This is not the forum to ask for advice if you're underage and I respect that.
try to keep in mind there are loads of other steroid forums but unfortunately it seems the people on many of them will.support any bad and dangerous idea someone purposes.
you came to the right place first in terms of quality and safety when you arrived here.
keep in mind the reality of the situation when you try to get advice elsewhere. anyone supporting you running steroids isn't the right person to get advice from.
Hi bro don't take all the people telling you what you don't wanna hear personally, they are just promoting what is the truth. I understand you took your first shot but that doesn't mean you have to stay committed, you could cease any future plans to reevaluate EVERYTHING......starting with your DIET
In anything fitness related, DIET is KEY. Doesn't matter if you got the greatest drugs in the world if your diet isn't a driving force in your daily life you wont see HALF of the gains that you could if it was. MY ADVICE, is to spend the next few months to lock down your diet where prepping and consumption is second nature to you. I'm sure if you get your diet down, you can quite possibly break 200lbs naturally without any drugs. Say you wanna say "Screw you" well then you most certainly need to take the time to educate yourself to further understanding of the substances you wanna fuck around with. When I was 21 that wasn't when I did my first cycle, that's when I started REALLY learning about the chemical compounds that I was so interested in. I would pick brains, read, ask questions whenever you can because the more knowledge you can gain the better (and safer)
My biggest worry is that you have not mentioned a thing about your diet and I have no idea what your experience with the sports and weights are. Or your real goals. 21 is young...and 5'9 180lbs at 15% is not even close to what you can get naturally......for instance when I first got on my stats were 5'10 240lbs 20%
In the end YOU will DO whatever you want.
Best of luck, its a wild ride, I hope you don't die
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Sweet advice brother............. thank you +3
That post took time to write and i respect that fact.
Whoooops............... i just came in and noticed the neg karma............... i read down the thread and see why.
I just dropped a ton of +3s in here for you guys that are trying hard to preach research and safety
beautifully put, brother!
Thx...you do a great job, too.
its all i can do bro!
if i had my way i would throw a bunch of chicks in and some free tickets to the eroids summer bash in cancun but the boss has put the fkn kybosh on my giveaways :(
What you do is great! When you pop in here it's like a huge motivator that brings the best out of a lot of members. Thanks!
This is what you posted below:
I doubt you eat decent. If you do, then take the next 3 fkn days and post up a food plan on here...in this forum...at least bring something to the table, other than drugs....What's your lifting REGIMENS look like..post those up too and QUIT ARGUING WITH OUR RULES....
21 years old?? Why not focus on pussy and college? Damn you kids are something else nowadays.
Exactly, it's college, go out have fun make it the best 4 Years of your life fuck everything over a 7 and don't fuck with gear. My week would go like this, lift mon tues weds go out weds night-sat night and make zero progress lol. Just maintain barely.
Hahaha...nice..
lmao Goose. Killed me
Boy some of you fucking millennial knuckleheads don't fucking learn do ya...
READ THE RULES, BOY!! YOU CAN HAVE FOOD AND GYM ADVICE....THAT'S ALL!! KEEP PUSHING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS....
180lb with 15bf and you think steroids will help you? Ummm no, sorry but you need to learn how to eat first. You want to add in gear AFTER you can't grow anymore on your own. But with your body fat that high and your actual total weight being that low, you just need to earn how to eat right so you can get up to at least 200 pounds naturally with less fat.
I'm 5'9 myself and just started a cycle after I got to 210lb 12bf. The funny part is that I'm 35 and you're only 21. I see your natural testosterone levels are probably two or three times higher than mine and it would be even easier for you to get over 200 pounds naturally. Why would you possibly want to take gear at your age and screw up your natural level which is going to be high already.....
Food and rest make you grow, gear only helps with those two were done correctly.
Do you guys want me to delete the thread then? Damn I just wanted answers regarding my questions.
If you delete it, that's your choice. You'll still be left empty handed because it's the damn food that makes you grow....this isn't a trick question...BUT DON'T YOU KNOW THAT? Get with the program..
bro there's a difference in wanting legit answers and just wanting someone to tell you what you wanna hear. You need to do your research, if not you're gonna be back on here with different questions later about why ur shit is all fukd up.
Testrogen_PropC...https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-test...
Didn't like the answers he got in his last thread so he made a new one. People never cease to amaze.
fail..... you're 21, dude. not to mentioned you started a cycle and don't even have your full protocol mapped out. do yourself a favor and stop NOW, don't do another injection.
you should be heading over to the diet section for advice not asking about steriods. other than your obvious age being a big reason not to be running cycles, your knowledge is clearly lacking. you're going to hurt yourself.
I hope I'm surprised and you take this advice bUT I'm skeptical.. if you don't, I predict you will be posting within the matter or months with issues related to your new B cup boobies or asking why your penis doesn't work. then followed by how you need help but are to afraid to ask your parent to take you to the doctor.
Come on brother, enough with the age. I can see from your response your judging me solely based on my age. I know the risk I am taking regardless, my first injection was already started. I've done my research and have everything planned out with my PCT. I was just quite anxious so I did the first pin. Please stop judging me, instead answering the questions I asked. I already have everything I need and my diet is good. Training in the gym is my life, so I would appreciate if you only reply if you are experienced and have some knowledge on the arimidex and HCG questions I asked. Like I said, I know the standard protocol, 250 IU 2x per week for HCG and arimidex 0.5mg eod. But I wanted to know if it would be OK to wait for arimidex until week 4 and save on the HCG unless I feel it's needed the last 10 days following 4 days pct. All the research was done brother, I just want to know the best scenario regarding the questions I asked on arimidex and HCG. Thanks.
you are contradicting yourself, clearly you don't have adequate knowledge. if you did you wouldn't be asking such a rookie question.
yes, I am judging you, I'm judging you based on your stupidity. you clearly don't understand the developmental physiological complications you are risking based on your immature and poor choices .
watch out guys, we have another self induced trt lifer coming through!
I appreciate your concern for my health but damn if every response from you guys is going to be about me being a jackass I'll just delete this post. At least I didn't hop right into tren or some bullshit I'm sticking with 1 basic compound and have all the necessary on cycle and after cycle support items. Instead of being so judgmental, give advice regarding my question or don't post. Again I do appreciate your concern for my health, but if all the responses are going to be like this I'll delete my post for you guys.
I can see here that real talk isn't getting the point across...
let me try explaining it differently..
you are in a generation that has a huge advantage over previous ones. you have found the best site for steroids. please take advantage and learn. what I mean by this is your have a community of people here that can explain their experiences good and bad. there are numerous people on here that weren't as lucky and they made bad choices now they have to pay for those choices. that means for the rest of their life they have the obligation of trt, which is In no way a good tjing.
one of the most intelligent and mature things you can do is to learn from other peoples mistakes. don't repeat them
Testrogen_PropC...The only help we can give you here is "don't do it" even though I know it's too late. But 1 thing I will tell you is if you were actually ready to be taking gear, you would already know the answers to the questions you're asking.
I'm trying pretty hard not to be a dick, but these are straight up "I have not done my homework" questions.
As a complete beginner, taking a shot of test THEN attempting to plan out your very first cycle is just straight up stupid.
See I do know the answers. But I posted this to see if any experience users could comment the best scenario. My second injection I am most likely going to add the HCG at 250iu 2x/week. I'll probably wait until week 3 or 4 to start the adex. I posted this because I wanted to hear from experienced people if they had a better option or if I should just eliminate the HCG. But if I don't get the advice regarding my first cycle, I'll do my standard plan.
Testrogen_PropC...I permanently fucked my hormones up by doing exactly what you're doing right now, and at your age. I had the same mentality you do. "Fuck it ill be good" but taking hormones isnt like street drugs where you take it and in 2 days your body is back to normal. My natural testosterone never came back to the normal range of a healthy male, even tho it was sky high before that first cycle. I ran shit way too fucking long without a clue what I was doing.
So guess what happened after my shit-tastic PCT, I got fat, weak, no energy, depressed.....and this lasted for a couple years til i got bloodwork done and found out why. And now I'm a slave to the TRT bottle.
I hope this at least scares you a little. If not, fuck it I tried I guess. But it would be cool to not see you make the same mistake I did.
Did you take PCT 2 weeks after? Did you only run your cycle a maximum of 12 weeks? Was HCG used on your cycle? No I'm not questioning your stupidity I just want to know if you ran any of those cause that's what I'd be doing hoping for a full recovery after. Trust me when I say I'd hate to screw up my hormones permanently. That's why I was researching a lot before I started and got everything. I understand these risks, I plan to do this cycle for 10-12 weeks, no longer then that. The reason why I wanted to start this cycle was to maximize the results in the gym for my hard work. I may be young, but nothing else drives me to work hard but the gym, it is my passion and I train 6-7 days a week. I eat pretty decent and take it very seriously. I'm just hoping my recovery would be OK with the PCT and HCG that I have, cause you do scare me about that TRT to an extent. But I do plan on doing this the safest way possible and I would definitely take a long break before even considering a second cycle, I know that time on = time off and I won't consider another cycle for a while. I just decided I want to do this to get the most for my hard work and sacrifice that I put in the gym daily.
Everyone has told you what you should do, you still dont give a shit and are determined to just do it. Welcome to the world of a steroid junkie. After this one fails you will blame the gear and do another one except bigger. When that fails you will then throw in more compounds. When that fails you will try even more and then go higher. After years of doing this all you have is an extra 10 pounds and a lifetime commitment to trt. So just step the fuck back, drop the idea of cycling until you hit your genetic potential which you are more then likely very far away from.
If you continue to try and get someone to cosign a cycle or help you with your current you will try and log in later and notice you cant. Either go to the diet section and learn to eat and train, or close tje door behind you and take your self entitlement atitude with you.
Sweet, bro...