Some help with my 3rd cycle
Hi guy's,
As the topic title says i have ran 2 cycles prior to this one and was after some advice on my 3rd.
My 1st cycle was Test E @ 500mg pw for 12 weeks with clomid and Nolva as my PCT
My 2nd cycle was Dbol @ 30mg ED for 6 weeks and Test E for 12 weeks with Adex whilst on cycle and same PCT as before.
For my 3rd cycle i was thinking of running Dbol @ 30mg for 6 weeks, Test E @ 500mg for 14 weeks, Deca @ 300mg for 12 weeks and (maybe) tapering off with some prop for the last 2 weeks. As it's a longer cycle my PCT will extend to 6 weeks as opposed to the 4 weeks i've done on prior cycles. On hand for PCT i will have clomid and nolva, and for AI whilst on i'll have Adex.
My question is as this is the first time i will be running a 19-nor would you advise caber or prami as i'd like to have it on hand in case of prolactin sides??
Also even though (i feel) i have done a lot of research i would really appreciate some of you guys who have been at this longer than me, that if you see something that could be tweaked or changed for the better then please be brutally honest, i'd rather be told straight, than just run it and run into problems later on down the road 
All help will be greatly appreciated,
Thanks,
Gary
EDIT: My stat's, I'm 27, 6 ft, 201lbs, and BF% is around 17%
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Personally IF you're set on running deca, which I advise against.. unless its only for joint support, I'd go 500-600mg per week. You aren't going to see much size off of 300 mg per week, in ny opinion. And you will need to run a good prog antagonist, broom, prami, or caber are recommended.
You give him advice to run at 600 when he's not sure how he'll react below that? Most people run test at a 2:1 ratio to deca so that would put his test over a gram... Too high Imo unless he's trying to compete
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No point messing with that 2:1 ratio too much, more probable to get "deca dick".
Post up your stats please. (age, height, weight, BF%)
My bad I'm 27, 6 ft, 201lbs, and BF% is around 17%
Thanks for that, we can give you better tailored advice rather than just generic bro science.
I'm not keen on Deca for your third cycle personally, I'd run another cycle or two before a 19nor. Deca can be a long recovery so a bit more experience will help you to pick up on problems early enough to deal with. Not ssure how set on deca you are? Can make some other suggestions if you need it.
I'd also suggest you need to drop some BF% before another cycle. Diet and cardio to 15% or below, shouldn't take you long to get there.
Thanks for the reply, Yeah i was planning on dropping some BF before i started anyway but good to know that 15% is a good level to aim for
Ah that's a shame you said that as i have 30ml of Deca already on hand and have seen some really impressive gains on guy's who've used it. I also have 20ml of EQ on hand but i've heard that my BF% would have to be a lot lower for that to be an effective compound. What other compounds would you advise me on given my stats?
If you can trim down as planned, I'd be happy to go with an EQ cycle and keep the deca for another day.Ideally get a little below 15%, but you'd still get a solid cycle out of EQ.
If you can tell me what you want to achieve from this cycle, I'll help you put something together.
Well ideally i was after mass and strength for this cycle, but if you can help me out with a good EQ cycle that would be fantastic, i mean the Deca's not going anywhere right haha, Thanks for your help man, it's appreciated
See what you think of this:
Weeks 1-18 Test E 400mg/week (2x 200mg)
Weeks 1-16 EQ 600mg/week (2x 300mg)
Start AI week 3 (aromasin 6.25mg ed)
Week 20 - PCT Nolva and Clomid standard protocol.
EQ is a slow build, so needs a longer cycle (16 weeks minimum). If you want more mass, you could up the Test E to 600mg/wk but the effect will be a bit more water weight, at 400mg it's leaner with a harder finish. Emphasize get the hard work on diet cardio before cycle, the leaner you can get the better the results from an EQ run.
That's gold right there!
I would definitely try and keep to 400-500mg of test to keep that bloat down and wait........and wait some more for that eq to kick in and do the magic. I was going to write exactly the same cycle before I read down.
Ah that's great, i'll order in some more EQ and get some aromasin and save the Deca for a later cycle. Thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out, you're a star!!
No problem mate. EQ is a great compound if used intelligently. Just eat clean, no late in the day carbs etc and you'll enjoy.
FR and PM if you need to check anything ok?
Nice one, FR Sent
Just to expand you knowledge on the carb thing SDM was saying have a read of this
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/wanna-get-ripped-read-this
Thanks for the info man, was just about to write up a diet plan and this will be changing some of the meal ideas i already had in mind.
Thanks mate, top into for the op right there.