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so close i can smell it.

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as some of you may know i am starting my next cycle next week, thanks tread-m rods and hllwdbdboy for your help to create this monster of a cycle, my goal is to make these 18" arms into 21" arms, and make this 12% back down to the 9% i love! while hopefully maintaining my 230+ lb weight! or even gaining!

cycle:
600mg/wk EQP wk 1-14
wk 1 rip blend
wk 2-10 tren enanthate 150mg/E4D
wk 2-12 test cyp 300mg/E4D
wk12-16 test prop 100mg/EOD
wk 1-5 tbol 60mg ED

PCT:
nolvadex 40402020

will have prami on haand aswell as nolva, a-dex incase nolva fails, and letro incase a-dex fails. as i am prone...it sucks i know...

i dont react well to hCG so thanks in advance for mentioning it, but it is out of the question

Stats:
236lbs probably at 12ish% to be honest, age is irrelevant.

portuguesepride's picture

hey man ive never seen actual proof of this claim but just from word of mouth and other's opinion's, isn't nolva supposed to be a no go after tren? i've seen mixed reviews. i understand you end at week 10 and start pct week 17 or 18 so i was just curious on the reasoning, would nolva be a no go had you ran tren all the way through and not stopped at week 10?

Roid Noid's picture

Beings that your a source and have gear on hand why not add a couple more things. You say you want to drop body fat, your switching to a short ester at week 12 anyways. If it where me the day I started prop, id start tren a and winstrol as well, go on a reduced calorie diet and shread for 30 days.
I dont follow the use of rip blend for one week and then everything else as they are long estered, but you know your body so go for it if thats what you feel works best.

Also consider frontloading the EQ

HllwdBdBoy's picture

yes, generally (approx) 2x cycle dose amount
there's still alot of squabbling and disagreements that go on about frontloading. some use it as an alternative to a "kicker", others use it when utilizing multiple compounds, some "believe" they are optimizing the best use of the esters so they will utilize the "formula" for weeks into or even throughout out the cycle.... For THIS cycle, well you already have a tbol kicker (i thought the RIP was a kicker to ur kicker) ur cycle is long enough so you will be optimizing the EQ. Now is frontloading the EQ necessary, well, it DEF wouldn't hinder but with the duration of ur cycle and the other compounds ur utilizing (IMO) its a push. I'd probably nudge a little harder if you were going, say 10 or 12 wks but 14-16 wks of EQ IS optimal.
my .02

heres an interesting link, a little dated, but still interesting:
http://www.warriorfx.com/2007/07/front-loading-steroid-cycles/

Roid Noid's picture

I dont know the exact protocal for frontload, I have an idea I think is right but I dont want to share some bad info so ill let someone that knows for sure answer this.

jpal's picture

what is you height

Trenabolic's picture

Good one i would also add clomid. The only diffrence is i would run the clomid 50/50/50/50. But either way would be good.

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HllwdBdBoy's picture

there are many schools of thought on PCT with everyone "swearing" by the schedule that works for them... old school says nolva/clomid, newer school looks at clomid as "out dated"... I have never had an issue with a straight nolva 40/40/20/20 (but I am not prone and also run a low dose AI throughout cycle) I have a buddy that "swears" by a 3wk nolva schedule 40/20/20 and he's still around to talk about it... not for me, but hey, he's happy...
(as always) it comes down to individual thresh holds and knowing one's body

Trenabolic's picture

I agree what works for you might not work for someone alse. I have always used both nolva/clomid maybe on my next run i will try nolva alone.

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Trenabolic's picture

What kind of sides do you get from hcg? I am intersted because i also had some sides and was considering not using it on my next run.

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Trenabolic's picture

I also got a rash from it.

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slipperyslope's picture

Keep us updated! I'm assuming all Lixus, right?