posted Tue, 06/16/2015 - 15:14
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Should I count prohormones count as experience for first real steroid cycle?
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This might be a stupid question but Im wanting to do start my first cycle. I know the recommended beginner cycle is 500mg test e for 12 weeks. But what if I have taken a few cycles of prohormones before (mdrol, alpha one, pheraplex, tren). Do you think I should start at a higher dose to see the same results as someone who has never taken anything before?
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AnonNo
This is your first real cycle treat it as such
But like flash said
Get bloods
But am glad you came forward and asked the question but actually ph is shit.... Your better off this route as that stuff is more harmful
mdrol is superdol, alphaone is m1t, pheraplex is dmt and tren is oral tren metabolised by the liver, you best get bloods done before anything, they are all harsh drugs that require proper protocols, pct, ais etc, and you obviously ran no test with them, go get bloods done and see where you at, your liver etc might have problems, you could be shut down.
I wouldn't. I feel very bad for the teenagers desperately trying to look good/ build mass who fall prey to the pro hormones.
First of all there all orals, which to nobody's suprise is quite hepatotoxic.
They degrade in the body. What was 10mg originally becomes maybe 30mg after the liver processes it.
And finnaly, and perhaps the most important: THEY CAN REALLY SCREW YOU UP. I've heard many stories of kids doing prohormone only cycle, and then losing the ability to get erections. They don't know about PCT. They don't know about HPTA Shutdown.
Rant over. Bottom line, no prohormones don't count.
You are starting from square one here. You need to stick with the basic beginner cycle to learn your ai dose and to get used to pinning and how to run a proper pct. Just because it is termed a beginner cycle doesn't mean it isn't going to be as effective as other cycles. The effectiveness of your cycle is mostly based on diet and not the compounds.
RustyhookerWhat's your stats and goals boss? You've never had to pin before
5'11 195 around 10-11% bf. Just looking to get to the next level. I feel like I've gained all I can from ph cycles.
RustyhookerImo the pro hormones are harsh with lil return. The first couple generations of ph were close to the real deal. Body splits off an atom and boom. The liver stress etc after 20 years of changes...bleh.
A basic beginner run gave me plenty. My first run was just 300 mg and I busted ass and massed up. Pinning is something to pay attention to. Anything injected into your body has risks. Skin blocks most daily virus but injecting is right into muscle. Research thoroughly. Know and have all sterility in check. Have extras of everything. Pins, gear, ai and pct.
Food means a lot. Gear will repair you faster but without food those repairs are hindered. There's diet guts on here that can help make life easy.
Click my avitar...read the forum I posted. Magnifying glass up top is a great help. Know your foods and keep the gains.