Short NPP cycle questions
Stats: 26, soon to be 27
Weight: 193
Bf: 10%
Cycles: 3. All for competition purpose.
First one just test e 500
2nd: test e 500 weeks 1-12 anadrol 50mg weeks 1-4, anavar weeks 8-12 50mg (yeah I know now that wasn't too bright)
3rd: 1-12 test e 500, EQ 600mg
Nutrition: I eat about 3200 calories to maintain, 3500 for muscle building
Now I've read "anabolics" so I feel a little more knowledgable than before so I've certain in favor of shorter cycles for bulking purposes at least. What I want to do is do a 6-8 weeks bulk blast of 450mg npp, 500mg test e. It will be my first time using a 19nor so I'm curious as to what my pct should be. I've been doing more and more reading and I've great success with running low Nolva during cycle (10mg/day) while running high doses (50mg) a week before I stop and my last cycle I recovered very nicely and kept my gains. So the main questions are:
1. About how much should I up my calories by
2. Has anyone had success with this type of cycle
3. What should my pct be
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Have you considered running test prop instead of test E for your short bulk? Test e takes a good 4 weeks or so to really peak so you'd almost be short changing yourself.
x 2 there mate, matching esters! prop and npp
I was actually considering prop and I didn't even think of how long the test kicks in
I'm glad you've posted up here and are learning, but the fact that you "didn't even think of how long the test kicks in", shows me that you have a ways to go. You should probably forgo the NPP and just stick with test-e/c and experiment with test-p before you jump to a 19-nor.
I've used test prop once before but I always use test e because it's what I have a lot of.
I'm confused on why you didn't consider how long the esters kicked in on your proposed cycle. All I'm saying is that I hope you take more time to research and understand all that goes into cycling and mixing compounds and their associated esters. My suggestion would be for you to stick with a test cycle and maybe mix in a prop taper or the like, before thinking about stepping up to a more advanced compound.
you need either prami/ bromo or caber, and I don't like the test to npp ratio.
What would you suggest test to npp ratio then? I was looking into getting caber to help with gyno. I do also have adex and plenty if nolvadex
research each of them and learn about what they are and what they are actually doing, I personally prefer caber, but to be honest brother you have to research them yourself.
For pure bulk? If so, the old school 2:1 test:nandrolone ratio still holds true.
Hmm interesting. I know some 19nors don't aromatize themselves but increase progesterone production in combination with test. I heard that for bulking it was better to go low test higher npp for less sides. Anyone else experience that?
Btw: I do appreciate the help and I'm not trying to prove I'm smart or doubt you, just exploring all facets
No problem, didn't come across that way
Treat it just the same as deca mate. Low test with nandrolone and you might have libido / erection issues. Not a good place to be, especially for a young guy!
No real science to support running low test high NPP produces less side effects, quite the opposite to be honest. Shouldn't get a lot of sides from NPP run at 2:1.
Drop me a line if you need my help.
that's what I still use bro, I believe it to be the healthiest, side effect wise way to run it, also yielding the best gains, to the op, you got grimey and sdm in here, listen well and learn well