+ 1 second cycle advice: test/tren/var
hey whats up! so thinking about doing a second cycle, i've tone test prop with var in the past and got good pump muscles toned up got cut but not too much gaining more maintained because at the time i was cutting with my diet. also pro hormones when i was much younger and stupid and did not see much gains from them but water gains.
thinking about running this as my second cycle:
14 week total
test prop 1-10
tren ace at 50mg ed. 1-8
var at 50mg ed. 1-10
pct:
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin 20mg/ED 1-4
any input on anything to change add? I'm looking to gain a lot more mass and lean out. my diet is spot on, kinda became a habit because i feel like s*** if i don't eat anything clean. i'm 26 round 6'2" and 200 right not. not sure what my bf% is currently at but it's not ridiculously high. i train 6 days a week hour or more of cardio/hiit and hour of lifting.
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hey so here's an update: i've been following what zewi posted below, thanks again man! so i'm going into my 10th week now and so far all good. gained a little more than 10lbs, look leaner, massive strength gains and overall muscles feel a lot more dense and toned. looking into doing a third cycle in the future (far off from now but i like to plan everything out in advanced) thinking if i should repeat this or try something a bit different? i am happy with my gains so far but maybe something where i could put on a little more mass.
Maybe try the same cycle but add in a dbol or anadrol kickstart.
zewi has you on point. What's the rush, they wont quit makin tren. Nolva alone will completely shut down your estrogen production, and you will feel worse than you ever felt, not to mention watch all your gains melt away. What's your diet look like?
i dont think u need anavar
zewihow is this input??
Read the whole thread and glad you listened to the guys... Tren is a total NON-starter on a second run bro... you need to learn how far weaker compounds effect your body and mind before even contemplating trenbolone A OR E.
Also being a 19nor contributes greatly to totally different sides than you would experience from any test derivative... plenty of time to learn and feel DECA and its faster acting brother NPP and have numurous succesful cycles with these compounds before jumping on the tren train... to finalise here if you have bought any tren send it over to me and i will dispose of it for you in a very safe mannor lmao!
zewiYes change everything. Adding tren is not a good thing. You really have no AI support and you PCT is weak..You're not ready for Tren
Second cycle. And you want to gain mass.
IMO this is what your next cycle should be--
1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-12 Test E @ 500mg a week split
13-16 Test Prop 100mg EOD
Arimidex .25mg E3d to keep bloating down if nipples come sensitive go to .5mg E3d or .5mg ed
PCT 3 days after last shot take Arimidex up until you start you PCT
Nova 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
(If you want to add var at the end that's up to you)
thanks man, i really appreciate this!
tread-mNice listen brother, that's good stuff right there! I think you run 10 cycles before you have the tren convo. So much to learn, so many good tools available to you before then and when the time comes you are primed for the tren run. Keep us posted on your cycle as you roll.
i don't think you've gotten much smarter if you planning on running tren on your second cycle. do more research bro and if your bodyfat isn't around 10% or so, var and tren is not the way to go !!
yea i'm deff around 10% because when i have measured in past i was around 8% and i haven't filled out that much
then prop and var would be a nice stack for your second cycle as long as you getting your cardio in daily. i would wait on tren for as long as you can. maybe try some NPP for your next cycle !!
zewistill don't care i dont give a crap if you were 5% BF---IMO i am against anyone using tren in the 2nd cycle.. and hopefully you have been doing your liver supplements too.
yea got liver supplements
Supernova283Tren in your second cycle with an oral all the way through your cycle. I'd start clenching my asshole now.
zewilol.. i so wanted to go off but i didn't