!!!!Quick summer blast, with peps!!!!!
Ok, quick stats:
43 YO
6' 3"
248 lbs.
about 9.6% BF
Been lifting over 20 years with dozens of cycles under the belt. This is the first time I'm incorporating Peptides with it. BECAUSE of this, this cycle is Test and Anavar ONLY. These two compounds are always in every cycle I do, and I know how my body reacts to them I DON'T know how I will react to Peps, so I want a "clean trial" if you will, to determine the peptides effect. Diet is ALWAYS on point with 6 to 8 meals a day, all in all around 5000 KCALS per day.
Sups are on point to.....I'm a MusclePharm guy, so Combat, Bullet Proof, Recon, Armour V and Yohimbee... and all EAA and BCAA are on point too.
Training is on point also.... I am an ACE Certified PT with additional Certs in GF and Sports Nutrition. I am starting Kris Gethin's 12 week trainer in a few weeks, if you don't know who he is, find out, he is the man IMO!
Now with that said, here is the cycle I'll be running.
Weeks 1-12
1G of Sust/Test E a week (750 being Sust and 250 Test E)
Weeks 4-12
Anavar 100 mg ED
AI: Aro @12.5 ED Caber on hand also
PCT: Clomid, Nolva, Aro,HCG and HMG at normal protocol doses.
Peptides:
cjc-1295/without DAC/GHRP-2 100mcg EACH 2 times daily
Ipamorelin/cjc-1295 without DAC 100mcg each ED
Breakdown of pin times thruout the day goes like this.....
cjc-1295/GHRP-2 at wake up, 1/2 hour before breakfast
This is when I hit the gym also....after breakfast.
cjc-1295 without DAC/GHRP-2 after gym.....this is about 5 hours after last pep injection
Water only during workout, as carbs greatly effect Peptides potency in the body.
I work second shift, so I go to work after gym.
When I get home....Ipamorelin/cjc-1295 without DAC before bed
Solid 8 to 10 hours of sleep.
REPEAT
There it is, I'm already a pretty big guy, so I'm looking for nice solid gains. Peptides will be taken 6 months to a year.
WHATCHA THINK???
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Yes i have brother,,, i started to use two different brands of bac water to see which one was causing the problem.... after a couple of days i realised brand A was causing tiny bumps and brand B wasn't, so i ditched brand A and ran with brand B and not had a problem to this day... i also swap about with B12 and that gives no problems either!............ so try a simple bac water test first bro before you swap out peptide brands because the problem may just be as simple has the water you are using.
You can also pin intra-muscular if you wish, for me this gives no probs whatsoever .
AnonIt's pretty awesome to see how good peps can be when you have your diet set up and it's second nature.
I'm still a beginner in terms of pep use but my stack of frag and cjc1295 w/o dac has been a very good fat busting combo. I'm enjoying it for sure. Very simple cycle oil wise and the nice pep stack you have should have some lasting gains bro. Keep us informed on how well your gains stayed.
AnonEasy and painless
I could do it multiple times a day
Would need a good supply of pins lol
Nice brother!... fkn glad for you and i totally agree with your comment below that PEPS are better than most GH.... i have been running PEP combos lately and achieved similar or better results than even mega expensive Pharma GH............ in fact i was telling a member on here the other day all my team back home has swapped from GH to properly dosed/timed PEP combos and EVERY single one of them is getting better results ( male and females).
+3 brother for thinking out of the box and experimenting (and succeeding) with compounds that most folks brush under the table as being useless and never consider to be the magic that they are looking for.
I personally will never spend another penny on GH now that i have found the correct saturation doses for myself............ and at a fraction of the cost of Pharma GH which lets be honest is the only one worth thinking about, its a no brainer to use peptides year round. (with correct protective/preventive ancills taken into account). +3 bro for having a highly productive run
Care to make a post about these peptide protocols? Pretty please?
Not just yet bro..... the GH sources on here will throw a hissy fit when i fuck up their business with a crew of guys on here gaining better than they have ever done in their lives with PEPS instead of the generic dog piss they deal daily lmfao!
I think you guys who pin 10 times a day are fucking nuts. I could never do that pin right when I wake up, before every meal, preworkout, after every workout, before I masturbate, after I take a shit, and again before bed.
Once a day is plenty for me.
Good luck though. That's a pretty heavy stack, you should see some amazing gains I can imagine.
Nutz!............ yes we are bro!... we are fucking massive as well!... thats the difference between Bodybuilders and weekend warriors............... PASSION and TOTAL COMMITMENT to goal.
P.S. Nothing heavy about his stack compared to what you run!...... you run tren at a gram + right?............ this guy is using test and his natty growth mechanics to do the business............. BIG FKN DIFFERENCE............ Ans he is like 60+lbs heavier than you so whats with the concern ?
Lol, I almost spilled my gallon of water because I was cracking up so bad. Your funny. But I agree I could maybe do 2 a day but for what. I'm not a pro or a model.
Good luck ganatropin6 has always had my interest. But pinning to much not so
I think it looks good! I've been running that protocol + igf1lr3 post w/o bilaterally. Ghrp-6 3x/day with cjcw/odac.
Here's my take on gh vs peps. I think if you're not diagnosed with abnormally low gh levels then peptides are better. Not saying this is a fact, I haven't done extensive research on gh. But I figure if you are on gh, won't your body stop making it's own natural gh...that's why it's said that once you start you have to stay on for the rest of your life. I seen suggestions to use ghrp6 after a cycle gh to restart the natural release. If you can use the ghrp to boost your natural production without shutdown that seems better to me.
I don't know how much of a boost there is, I don't know if you're making as much gh than if you used gh. Maybe some real studies will be done someday. I know they're not comparable, but compare it to test in the sense of shutdown; if we actually found a product that increases test production to that level of using exogenous test, wouldn't you rather use that instead?
Accepted.
Viking has been using peptides lately if I understood him correctly, so there must be something to them.
Lol.... yeah i just read the comments above bro, all i can say is this!.... i did real deep research on PEPS and certain combos/dosage etc........ i personally am having better gains from test/peps stack than anything i got from Generic or even Pharma GH..... and the best thing is that it costs next to FK all!....... i am big and full as the last pics prove so i am very fking happy.
I was waiting on you to chime in ha ha ! Ive never looked into peps and im ignorant to them but im intrigued. Im gonna have to start researching them. I know they're cheaper than gh but are they any safer or have less sides? Do you have any links with some good reading where I could get a better understanding for them?
Much safer and very few sides, compared to AAS, plus you can stay on them for months at a time. I've been looking into them a lot lately. I'm gonna take mine through PCT and after to try and keep as much gains as possible. Check this link out. (http://www.eroids.com/forum/hgh-peptides/peptides/ghrps-ghrhs)
Good read pin! Looks like a whole lot of pinning at specific times. I think it would be hard to juggle the pinning schedule into my busy day to day life.
Definitely time sensitive. Just like anything else if you can't go at it 100% then it's not worth it.
Exactly, ill stick with my oils for now.
Is this what you're doing? And that's all???
Oops, tried to copy and paste this in last comment but it disappeared. Is this all you're doing, lol.
PEPTIDE STACK
GHRP-6 .. Dosed @ 100mcg morn/PostWO/eve = 3xdaily.
MOD GRF1 Dosed @ 100mcg morn/PostWO/eve = 3x daily (CJC1295 wo DAC).
yeah thats all at the moment with pharma test bro........... i am trying to wean myself off most compounds, i have stated i will never use 19s ever again unless comp prepping (ACE)............ This is straight fact bro, i was having a chat with 7Gothic in PM about a gear deal and i told him all i am looking for is short+long estered test!.. nothing else....... this is a "cruise" mode basically for me until i get my head around the next Blast which i cannot list here due to reasons you fully understand, but my initial plan will be simply Test with a different PEP combo, i am interested in seeing what a 20wk blast on pure Test Prop with a sustanon base brings, i just need to perfect my PEP combo/balance to see which are the best products to use for max results.
P.S.... I plan on running B12 instead of bac water for this session.
That's seriously badass. If you're getting better results with these peps than with GH the I need to get better quality peps. I did that exact combination you're doing. Word for word. And didn't get any effects other than hunger. I'm gonna try again now, but with a different source this time.
What's the significance of using b12 over bac water? Absorption? Added health benefit?
I have a few bottles that need to used so i thought why not use it for this purpose, unsure of any benefits but if there are i will let the board know.
Awesome please do that's interesting. You don't think it'll degrade the peps at all? I know peptides can be really fragile. Hell you can't even squirt bac water directly on it when you reconstitute them or they get all beat up. But I don't know enough about the science of sterile b12 to figure that one out.
@ BIGCHAS..............Shot timings are perfect bro and the 100mcgs dosage is also spot on due to 100 being saturation point!... anymore is wastage, i know i guy who thought he was being clever by using 300mcg shots, problems started when he started collapsing about 3 mins after the shot because it was making him Hypo the fkn tool!
@birdbear.......... B12 is also a favourite for mixing HGH with a lot of Pro BBs
Glad you reconsidered staying away from cycle forums.
Last he talked he was dong 600mg Pharma Test, and 3x day PEPs. I don't think he stated which Peps Exactly.
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Yeah I hear you on the fake growth. It does happen. But I know the growth from a particular top international sources has been testing consistently well. Ghrp2 can make you hungry but most users get a lot more hungry on ghrp6. In my opinion yes they do have some alight advantages, the biggest one being that they're legal to purchase and possess. Another advantage is they won't shut off natty production of growth. But no pep stack will ever hold a candle to good gh. You'd be much better off with gh. Pm me or gearhead for some good growth sources. Gearhead will be your man for the best info though.
I really didn't mean to offend. I'm gonna be 37 this summer so I'm no spring chicken. And I run real GH all year long and I know where to get it. Not only is it hard to find, it's expensive indeed. It's also hard to fake an IGF-1 test with counterfeit GH, but I've heard they have even figured that out too. If you should ever decide for some reason that u want to run GH, one of the top sources on this site does in fact sell it. Not generic knock-offs but brand.
Honestly gearhead has it right. The amount of money you'll spend on your years worth of all the peptides you want to use will easily equate to the cost of good GH. But the GH will blow your pep stack out of the water. He can point you in the right direction for good quality GH. I'd say don't waste your time on the whole pep stack. The only benefit you can reap from a ghrh is the increased appetite from ghrp6. Which of course leads to eating more, which leads to gainz. Derp. Save a couple more bucks and invest in good growth hormone to get by far more bang for your buck. Don't mistake gearheads statement for a lack of knowledge bro. Hes certainly not lacking...
thats a fair bit of test, what will happen when you finish?
This may sound like a real dumb ass question but at 43 why would you be working with chemicals that rely on your natural production of GH rather than just running GH? What you are doing is analogous to going to GNC and buying a Test booster.
Prime time for cjc/ghrp is bedtime so think about switching that up. Keep in mind ghrp can elevate prolactin so that's a concern. Don't expect wild gains. I did something similar for a while and it didn't do much for me as far as gains go. Great for sleep, increased appetite, nice skin. But muscle gains are minimal.