posted Fri, 09/14/2012 - 19:20
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Well im on week 3 of 6 on my winny and test p cycle (winny eod 100mg, test p 100mgs eod) and i had some deca. im wondering if i should wait and use it in a different cycle or just throw it in this one. if so why or why not? Thank you
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Brother the deca won't even kick in 3wks and for future reference mast is a nice winny alternative... similar results/less sides...
but since you're already in you may want to consider switching up to 50ed instead of 100eod on the winny
cdaddy7Very true H, he is putting a good bit of liver stress and that also is a nice strong DHT derivative that loves to fuck with the prostate and make it swell...I hope there is liver supps on board as well as a good solid prostate support supp as well...These guys always want to use pro doses...they go to the websites and go to the profiles and scroll all the way down to dosages and look at the ratios and OFF THEY GO!!! Neber reading and studying the compound to see what it does to your muscles BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY how it effects your body, organs, and functions...There are great alternatives available that they can take and DIET PROPERLY and the can yield the same if not better IMHO
one of the things I have stressed from the beginning is that eroids is NOT a BB site and the one size fits all type of advice should be heavily monitored. when we get new members there is a very good chance they have been conditioned by other boards that strictly deal with competition level advice. we have a very wide demographic here and advice should be treated as such.
tread-mBOOOOOM! VERY WELL PUT! This is much of the problem of late. All we re seeing is one size fits all and too many good people losing themeselves and supporting that metallity for karma bumps! This is a community of many types of people with many opinions and we should welcome those opions and will be better off with our community input as opposed to 3 or 4 voices trying to own the site. I'll say again today, I've been guilty of those things a time or 2 as well so no blame. Had a guy tell me this morning he hopes he can get back to enjoying the site a bit too that he has felt as though if he even opened his moutbh he would be flamed. Thats not Eroids in the world I know. Love the words here +3 wish It could be 10!
cdaddy7X2 H well put
Thats the reason i want to try to get cycles boards back to giving specific info to posters instead of like you say "one size fits all" that doesnt work and never will..same with diets!... what works for me may not work for you, an outline can be given bit it in 99% of cases has to be fined tuned..saying all this IF the guys that post gave us more specifics about thier certain goal everything would be a lot easier... "but".. its not a perfect world as you well know my brother lol
cdaddy7We are getting there Viking, me and z and fast try to lead the standard of asking and I have def noticed a shift in the way we were just giving out advice...nothing is overnight and perfect for sure but we are being more mindful and def encouraging safer cycles and proper PCT and def pushing the diet/nutrition part too....it takes time but i can tell u that we r implementing it as diligently as we can and i see the lower level guys following in our footsteps so thats important...we still goof and drop the ball, but we got a good little brotherhood bond goin where we are gettin each others back instead of hanging them out to dry...I'm pleased with what I'm seeing....Rome wasn't built in a day but you sure can see the eroids empire growing leaps and bounds
Correct bro..its a team effort.. WE ALL.. have to do our part in making this thing happen,brainstorming is the way forwards.
You should listen to what these guys have to say, they will save your ass.
Seems to me that unless you are a serious competitive bodybuilder orals are good to stay away from. You guys think this is a pretty good rule of thumb?
They can have a place in every cycle brother if used correctly..i see some people wanting to use kickers i.e d/bol,t/bol even drol at the end of cycles..then on the other hand we have folks wanting to kick start with var and winny which are classic finishers..it all boils down to proper research at the end of the day bro..orals should never be run without proper liver support measures in place either at the start middle or end of ANY cycle..this is the age old point that folks fail to understand then run into problemsand come asking here when its all too late... time out to do quality reading is as important as the cycle,nutrition,and training imo.... i have recently finished my 54th cycle bro but i NEVER stop reading to advance my own knowledge... purely because i want to live for a f-ing long time.
zewiLiver support is very important. Like Viking says.
read here..
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/things-to-remembe....
Stick to the plan with this cycle.. do not extend!..the winny will shut you down real hard so you need to hit the PCT and do it correctly for the full 4wks or you will feel like warmed up shit brother... PCT after a winny cycle is more important than the cycle itself..trust me on this!.... older guys will take winny to cripple natty test before going to the docs for a TRT prescription due to it hitting so hard... if PCT is poor you could be on your knees for about 6 months till natty test levels even out again.
zewigood point on the winny--its why i dont take that shit anymore.
Thanks bro..thought the point was worth making so other readers can learn as well
zewithan finish the short 6 weeker and plan for your next cycle..
Always stick to your cycle---don't add to it.
Save the deca for your next cycle..
Running your short 6 weeker is time on + pct = time off so your looking at what 10-12 weeks off after PCT to start another cycle.
Gives you time to plan a good 2nd cycle.
Deca in a few weeks would not give you much.. In all honesty only NPP would.
cdaddy7X2 Z, excellent advice...Our egos want to stay on that cycle esp when its showing benefits and making a difference...This is the part in being responsible and taking what you have learned in that short cycle and back to the drawing board to implement it next cycle or another one later...That is the place we learn the best and about use when we run short cycles and we can learn about our reaction to it and how we respond without getting far in and a bunch of side show up and ruin your big cycle IMHO
Im no pro but im going to post anyway.
You should always have an AI even if your only taking test at 100mg eod
But DONT use the deca you HAD. Why? Because you had to ask this question.
A six week cycle is not worth being shut down, I would say anything less then 12 weeks is a waste unless you do two week short cycles with short esters but even thats not really worth it. Just my 2 cents
I have just a few questions for you;
What is the half life of nandrolone decanoate?
How long does it take for nandrolone decanoate to become active?
How long does it take for deca to clear your body at the dose you want to take?
What are the side effects of deca?
To detroitnate this is my 5th cycle, 2nd im running a six week cycle because its harsh on your liver and i dont want to hurt anything. Sorry for the rookie question ive never used deca before just wanted some peoples input on it. and to fast my pct is clom 100 mgs for week every day then 2nd week 50mg ed then 3rd week 50mg eod with nolva 20mg for 3 weeks. im not taking any ai too btw
dont be sorry for asking because you would be sorry you didnt.
Is this really your 5th cycle? dont lie
make a planned cycle and stick to it bro
first thing first pct on hand
then gear.
It would take Deca 4weeks or more to kick in. So it wouldn't be productive with a 6 week cycle.Deca being a long Ester and Test P being a short ester makes it not a good combo. Also if you can extend the cycle to atleast 8 weeks but cut the winni at week 7 would be good.
First how many cycles have u done got the rest of your stuff from your profile
2nd why are u running such a short cycle of only 6 weeks?
3rd no on the deca u are on short esters and deca is a long ester.
now npp is what u would use as a short ester but u might want to do more research on cycles before u even think of npp
X2 ! Whats your ai and pct look like? Not well planned....