Question about mixing esters; seeking input on cycle
Current stats:
29, 6'1", 205lbs, bf10-12%, been lifting for 12 years
My last/only cycle was test-e at 500mg/week for 14 weeks and I have 3 fresh vials of quality gear that I was planning to use for another/similar cycle but now I am thinking of adding an additional substance and was considering tren...
I was thinking of doing 525mg/week tren-a(75/day) and 250mg/week test-e(split into 2 injections). I already have clomid/nolva/aromasin on hand... So, for these changes, I would just need to get some tren-a and caber. I was thinking of starting the test-e earlier and running it for 4 weeks (possibly at 500mg/week) before starting the tren. I would then run the test-e(250mg)/tren-a(525mg) combo for 8 weeks, making it a 12 week cycle in aggregate.
Anyway, I was just hoping to get some input or advice. Has anyone run a similar cycle? Should I just stick to the simple cycle of test-e only, since I already have the gear/ai/pct and do tren/test-prop as my next cycle? I was thinking of starting this in February, so I have time to ask around and do more research.
edit: No longer considering tren... Trying to determine a good substance to add to test-e on 2nd cycle.
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IF u use the tren, start at 50mg/day bro and adjust from there. 75 might be a bit much you don't know how your gonna react to it yet. And also, maybe give Masteron a shot, that and winny, those are the next best things to tren it will give u similar look and strength. Nothing beats the tren look though but I agree with these guys that you have to be ready for it.
Also- I highly agree with them, EQ is the awesome! Using it now there's no bloat and it makes u hungry as hell so if you eat right you can lean bulk, which is what we are all trying to do right?
is it not best to run tren at least 10 cycles under your belt?
I would lay off the tren for your second cycle. Maybe add eq or deca.d/bol kicker.
if runnning nor 19 hope you have caber ready incase i am no expert but reading what some member has had issue running deca etc....
play safe.
For a second cycle there's a hundred better ways to cycle than tren. Goal?
Goal is to increase lean mass and add strength while avoiding bloating if possible. I'm already regretting starting this thread and looking like the noob I am. I just got this idea in my head and had to bounce the idea off some more experienced people. What would you suggest as an addition to test-e in a 2nd cycle?
1jakd_hipyA proper diet and running your AI properly. All you need to put on lean mass
THIS .......is the proper route! Perfecting the basics will always cause growth before you need the next leap.
Only reason to regret a post would be if you don't want to learn or come back just to yell/argue. We all wanna get buffed out. Some to be huge...others to just look rocky. Mass n strength can still be easily achievable if you had proper time off. Food dictates bulk or lean. Many folks eat the bigger complex carbs first 3/4 of cycle and adjust as needed or a lil cardio. Starting lean has many perks.
1-4 prop 100 eod
OR
1-6 T-bol 50/day split
1-12 test e 500/split
13-14 prop 100 eod
Do you know the aromasin or adex dosing? And the cdaddy/gs/zewi Pct?
1-4 prop might be good. I'm reading up on EQ at the moment, as it was mentioned by frank and infidel. What do you think of that compound?
As for aromasin dosing, on my last cycle, I started it at 12.5/day once I noticed nipples were getting puffy and kept that dose throughout the cycle. PCT was 50/50/50/50 clomid and 20/20/10/10 nolva
I love eq. I don't normally create a stack for a new persons 2nd cycle but it's at least not harsh. Eq is definitly my fav. Take a look as well at eq cypionate. Can keep cycle shorter if you choose.
Modify your pct as well for better recovery. Cdaddy/gs/zewi posted blood tests etc on their pct and its one I'm going to use as well.
Aromasin 12.5 12.5 6.75 6.75
Clomid 100...100..50..50
Nolva 20...20...10..10
Less nolva blues....full control on estro...raises igf.....clomid wakes up the nutty buddies
AnonLike I said though, not sure if EQ is a good compound for 2nd cycle.. take Fast's advice first!
It's IMO one of the ideals on needing more. Meaning that for most folks simply running the first cycle over and making it perfect is all that's needed for many cycles. Test is king...so reworking food, exercise, and ai is still going to hit hard. Over the years you'll move up to 600...700...stack 500 with prop etc etc. But like with any drug if you get used to high doses now you'll need huge doses by 4-5 yrs later. Just a slower approach that works. But other side, yes its better than hitting harsh compounds too fast. If the OP is a learner, it's easier to reguide em.
AnonNo one on here is going to vouch for a tren cycle for your 2nd cycle. I and others would recommend a different compound...not sure if EQ is a good choice for a sec cycle, but you can get similar results if you like the longer cycles. I'm sure you will get the needed info you need from the more experienced users, get ready for some explaining to do! What are your goals? Goals will determine what type of compound you need to add! And don't say Lean Bulk...everyones want to be huge and ripped!
Thanks for the reply; I'll start reading up on EQ. I should have mentioned my goal for this cycle in the OP. I'm seeking to add size and strength and I'm looking for a substance that, when combined with the test-e, would help add lean muscle with little to no bloating or water retention. Tren seemed good for what I was looking for but I'm open to any suggestions. I only have 1 simple cycle under my belt and was considering knocking things up a level on my next.