Question about a cycle.
My boyfriend has been searching for a new cycle to start and I am wanting to help him, so I am hoping I can get some help on here so I can let him know. He is 35, his weight varies from 188 to 194 and he is 6 ft tall. He is wanting to run a longer cycle this time.
weeks 1 through 7
Test E-500 mg per week
EQ-800 mg per week
Winstrol-50 to 100 mg ed
week 8 through 14
Test E-500 mg per week
EQ- 800 mg per week
Tren-75 mg ed
The reason he is wanting to split up the cycle with Winstrol and Tren is because Tren has tended to stop being effective for him after about 6 weeks.
Can anyone give me any suggestions on if this is going to be a good cycle for him and what kind of PCT's and AI's and maybe an oral compound to throw in there with it.
I would really appreciate any help you can give me.
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I have the same issues with tren. About 8 weeks is my max, then my appetite plummets and I start feeling like poo. I switch over to npp for about 4 weeks after that. I blast and cruise so I do things a little differently than what he does. Very cool posting on here by the way. I can barely get my wide to scratch my damn back :-)
I think he should just run a simple test EQ cycle. Test at 500mg for 19 weeks and EQ at 600mg for 17 weeks. He can add winny if he wants end of cycle at 50mg per day.
If he runs tren he will have better success with a lower test dose most likely like 200mg per week.as well as NEEDS pramipexole or cabergoline
New2roidYeah tren is where the sides are. When i start cycling, tren isn't coming anywhere near me i always hear horror stories of people usin tren and it doesnt seem worthit lol.
AnonBut your gonna advise this guy too? Your fuckin 18. Never ran a cycle ....you shouldnt even hand out cycle advice
Let me ask you this....if your gonna run a cycle and need advice...are you gonna listen to a kid that never has....or you gonna listen to a guy thats been using as long as you have been alive?
New2roidWell she said he's done it numerous times with no sides so obviously he's got it all checked
And im not disputing your experience or knowledge just expressing my opinion and what i have researched.
What ever, not looking for an argument just trying to help some one. And yes i forgot to mention caber, as you and another guy pointed out like a sniper on the hunt. you could easily put that right and correct me, not snap my neck for it.
You just picked a big bone to chew on, young go hard. You trying to formulate a debate against The Star is like trying to move a mountain with your bare hands. You're way too young to run any gear and you have zero personal experience with any of these compounds. Experience is where true knowledge is found. Anyone can relay what they've on to someone else. But actually experiencing it for yourself is on another level. You're in a great place to learn. Just sit back and enjoy the show.
Anonlol well put homie
Anonthis is important stuff bud.... so i take it highly serious...we are putting compounds into our bodies.... what if you gave someone advice and they went on it but you forgot a key part and it causes alot of problems..... some have never recovered properly from tren..... not tryin to knaw on your ass.... but you should realize how important it is to know what you are doing when you advise someone how to do this stuff
very important
but all is said now
now you know
we are cool
Cycle advice with tren and NO MENTION of ANY 19-nor AI's is very dangerous. Caber and prami are necessary!
New2roidAfter the full life of the steroids is finished start PCT combining with both
clomid 100mg every day wk1&2 50mg every day wk3&4 and
nolvadex 40mg every day wk1&2 20mg every day wk3&4 also run
Aromasin during the cycle if either, signs of estro come apparent if not then run it a few weeks before finishing cycle and during PCT at 12.5mg every day.
Also if he's using EQ and winstrol he might aswell run it for 14-18 weeks since EQ is a very slow acting ester
Just a suggestion.
Thanks for being helpful. I areally appreciate it. Does the cycle sound ok.
New2roidYe sounds fine but when he starts pumping that tren he must run an AI such as aromasin or arimidex cuz the gyno is going to flare. Also make sure he doesnt run tren with winstrol
Cuz his blood pressure will be explosive lol
Tren does not aromatize meaning?????
Meaning there is no need for an AI. What he'll need is a prolactin inhibitor such as caber or prami. Compounds like 19nors and DHTs do not aromatize.
He is planning on running it seperatley and he has never had that side effect with tren and never had the first sign of gyno.
AnonIs anyone.gonna.suggest cabergoline
Why doesn't he join up and ask?
And does he not know anything about AI's and PCT's?
He knows about AI's and PCT's, I am asking because he works a lot and I am trying to be helpful. I want to be able to help him with this stuff, was just hoping someone on here could help me help him. He is a member on here.
OH REALLY?!?!?! HMmmmm....not sure where to go with this, lol.
Anonlol.... who is he ...jus curious
and we need more info like detailed cycle history
and what is the goal in mind with this cycle
X2
Can we have his cycle history and goals Jess
Not sure about his name lol I just knew he got on here to look up stuff so I figured I would give it a shot.
Not sure his exact dosage but he is running Tren A, tren Hex, Masteron E, and Test P. He's got empty bottle of Test E and Deca. I'm just really trying to help him cause he works so hard. He's wanting a lean bulk with his next cycle. Was just hoping someone could give me some advice so I can help him. He has been running cycles on and off for about 2 1/2 years.
Anonwell sounds to me like he shouldnt even be running tren yet its too damn harsh and can cause an array of sides can be very harmful..... my favorite lean bulk is test eq and tbol (tboll first 5 weeks)
will have him lean mass its an 18 week cycle with good quality gains providing his diet and training is in check
he is no where near experienced enough to be running tren trust me on this.... if you care about him....GET HIM OFF THAT SHIT NOW LOLOL
Sounds lean bulk enough...in all honesty, I have a feeling that your man really doesn't have a clue what he is doing. Just my honest opinion.
That's fine if you want to be honest, but there is no need to be direspectful. I was hoping to just get some sugegestions so that I can help him. I am asking for myself, not him, so please don't say that he doesn't know what he is doing, when it is me that is seeking the advice. I already know that I don't know how to help him that is why I am asking. Thanks.
I wasn't being disrespectful...I was just interpreting what I was reading as sorta a mess. And 'Monstar' hit it above too...he doesn't need to be running tren for one...I was pretty much going to get at the same thing. Sorry that you felt that way...I wasn't being an asshole
Anonhes not being disrespectful....we are jus juiced up males that talk that way..... if we didnt care we would say hell go for it
He has ran tren plenty of times, and have had no side effects or anything like that. I was worried at first to be honest myself, but he has ran it more than a few times and has not had any of the side effect. He does a lot of research believe me and I was just hoping to get some suggestions to give him.
New2roidSeems like hes quite tolerable with tren so ignore people saying for him to discontinue using it.
Its the tren everyone is concerned about but like i said seems your man has that sorted.
So in summary the cycle you have listed seems well thought out, just need to add AI's when starting the second stage of the cycle, and then include a nice PCT. after a heavy cycle like this, its pretty good to include HCG to resurrect the natural test levels, so research into how to include HCG into pct.
AnonYour giving tren advice to someone with no mention of caber
New2roidI thought maybe you would like to mention that for me
You sound like a top girlfriend to me!
Make the EQ run 18 weeks. Boldenone (EQ) has a long undecylenate ester attached to it, meaning that the compound is slow releasing and kicks in around week 8-9, therefore to get the best lean gains from an EQ cycle you ideally need to run it for a minimum of 16+ weeks. Gains from EQ can vary, depending on your diet, training and test-to-EQ ratio. If Test is equal to, or higher than EQ then you are more than likely going to gain 'bulk' whereas if test were at TRT/HRT dosage (which is how i like to run it) you will gain lean mass. Depending on his experience level, he has the option of using prop as a kicker and/or taper and anavar will be a great accompanyment to use towards the end of the cycle.
His pct should look like this;
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Sorry to have to ask but what is TRT/HRT I'm trying to learn about this stuff so I am still new to all this.
Testosterone/Hormone Replacement Therapy. Where a patient no longer or minimally produces their own testosterone through the use of their body's natural endocrine system.
This is the cycle layout which will give your boyfriend lean muscle mass.
Week 1-4 Test Prop 150mg/EOD
Week 1-18 Test E 200-300mg/wk
Week 1-18 EQ 600-800mg/wk
Week 13-18 Anavar 75mg/ED
Week 19-21 Test Prop 100mg/EOD
Begin PCT 3 Days after last Test Prop injection
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Thank you so much for your advice.
He said something about running the EQ for 18 weeks so that's good I guess. Your pct list looks like the one he had written down so thank you so much for helping me.
Anonthat really doesnt mean anything... but trust us when we tell you ..... he can do well without tren and the harm it causes.......im considered to be a vet..... and i would not steer you wrong
tren is a mistake for him
you dont know what underlies til its head pops up
;-P