Prop, NPP and Winny
Hello everyone. I would appreciate everyone's input on this potential cycle. I've used different kinds of test esters before and I like prop because it's quick acting and gains on it. I haven't used NPP or winny but wanted to for several reasons. I run a 12 week regimen training as a boxer. I don't compete anymore but I do it for self confidence and the benefits from boxing. I've boxed for 6 years now but have been training for at least 10 years. I've used everything in the past like D-bol, anadrol, sustanon, deca, prop and tren. Not looking to bloat up anymore. I'm comfortable at 205-210 but I want to take my strength and condition to another level. That's why I've considered prop, npp and winny. I've considered the bop only because my joints aren't the best to begin with then start using the winny I think it would really affect me in a negative way. I've actually considered going on HGH for its benefits as well. Another story, another time. Currently, I'm at 205 and roughly 10-12 percent body fat. As far as my diet, when I train I eat clean for the most part but I eat a lot of calories so I don't shrink down to a welterweight and so I don't feel like crap 90 percent of the time. I enjoy an occasional cheat day, I'm human and I'm not competing. I really could use your guys input on how to approach this cycle or what I should do in general to tweak it. I'm prone to gyno but I will have aromasin on hand and use accordingly.
1-12 weeks prop 450 mg
1-12 npp 150 mg
7-12 winny 50mg ED
Any input would help guys. Thanks everyone.
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Never used tbol before and I've actually been thinking about HGH. Would there be any benefits combining those two with test prop and possibly NPP?
Thanks everyone for your time and advice on this. I'm definitely not going to add the winny. Especially someone who's joints aren't the best, I don't think using winny would be a wise choice. I've done deca before and the stuff is great. That's why I've considered NPP. I don't want the crazy bloat and it's easier to control. My dose on that is low and more for the joint support. I've even thought about running some HGH for it's therapeutic benefits. So we'll see. Thanks everyone for your help.
As a former kick boxer I would stick with just test p or maybe test p and npp. But no way would I run winny! Maybe some tbol, but not winny. Wnstrol kills my joints and would only slow me down.
Testrogen thanks for your advice and time. I was looking at NPP because my joints aren't the best. My knees crack like I'm an old man ha. So I thought I could do prop and NPP low dose to help with joints. Then I hear about winny having benefits to speed and conditioning. I almost went with a prop and var cycle but I've read winny would be more cost efficient with better results.
Testrogen_PropC...I don't think they'll work together that way brother but it is a good thought. Pulled this from the Winstrol Wiki. Describing how Winny gives the dry joint feeling, and will actually be competing with nandrolone in the joints eliminating the relief you're hoping for -
Bodybuilders frequently misuse the term "dry" in describing their joint pain while using stanozolol either orally or via IM injection of an aqueous suspension; a reference to their perceived reason for an increase in joint pain. Rather, stanozolol as a DHT derivative can selectively compete with progesterone and other natural and synthetic progestins (nandrolone) for progestin receptors; yielding a reduction in progesterone mediated anti-inflammatory processes and presenting patients with a perception of increased joint discomfort
Good stuff.
Anyone who's run winny will tell you that it can and/or will dry your joints to a painful, gravely powder. Then you get those who try and midigate this with npp or deca. Not always a wise choice throwing a strong aas (with lots of potential sides) just to help with dry joints. How about just skipping the winny altogether and using one of the many other substances at our disposal? Better and safer.
GnarkillMight want to listen to this guy here testrogen knows what's up his advice is free here but he should charge
Testrogen_PropC...Accepting test prop as payment.....just kidding lol. Here's the Winstrol Wikipedia link. Tried to add it to the original post but OP replied to it right as I was editing it in.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanozolol
GnarkillHaha +2 brother thanks for the link. Test prop as payment dam your cheap lol I told him tren e you cheap hooker lmfao
Got it. My cycles in the past were more bulking so I used several compounds. Since all I do now is boxing I've stuck with prop only. I thought maybe I could add in the winny to see if it really would make a difference. I've seen posts where people have recommended anavar but for the price and pumps it causes, doesn't seem worth it.
Testrogen_PropC...Your stats look good and I see your goal is strength and conditioning. I don't see you really needing NPP or winstrol for this. They certainly won't help with the boxing aspect. That being said I think you should just stick with the prop. If you look back to the TRT legal UFC days you'll see how far these guys were able to get with just test. And I think that's the route you should stick with if you must run something.
Testosterone is a beast for both strength and conditioning with estrogen and diet in control.
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