PLEASE INPUT ON MY FIRST CYCLE!!! AND SUGGESTIONS...
Hello everyone... I need your opinions and suggestions...Ive been researching gears since I was 18 and wanted to wait till after 25 to get on it, and now Im ready... Here are my stats and cycle..I haven't worked out in a yr due to work and now I have a flexible sched to bulk up... My diet is in check,no problem.. but here are my stats and bulking plan cycle...
6'3 175.. yea I know skinny, but when I worked out back in college, I put on lean mass fast with shakes and creatine alone... 175 is my natural weight from hs.. the highest ive been has been 205, when I spent 4 days in the gym eating 3000 calories a day and I had more time to hit the weight rm consistently.... now I want to use gear to suppass my natural potential and make a lifestyle out of it, by using and cycling it properly..
Im 30 yrs old male...6'3 175
wk 1-12 test ethanate
wk 1-5 dbol
week 8-14 winny for cutting and solid muscle drying...
pct nol/clomid 20/50 mg wk 14-18
liquidex on hand incase..
wk 18 off for next 3 months..
Ive done my research and my gear ready for use...
Is this a proper bulk up and cut up plan?
is hcg neccessary for this cycle? dont want shrink balls cos Im married..
Im not a big on pinning, but I plan to only pin 2wice a wk on test e alone..
any ideas or suggesstions will be appreciated... btw my first time cycle... experienced users, please your input will be highly appreciated.. thanks..
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Hey dbcchem... Thanks man.. Il drop the oral and use the test.. Il consider your meal plan and tweak mine a bit.. Il update y'all on how it's going ... Thanks..
Now let's discuss your Diet, if you eat you will grow. I will give you a very basic simple plan that if you follow you will be amazed at what your body can and will achieve!! here we go 6am six egg whites one whole egg one cup of whole grain brown rice and a whey protein shake! ( all shakes should be made with 16oz of 1% milk) now 9am... 8oz chicken breast and a fruit of your choice.... 12pm 8oz chicken breast one cup of rice and a green vegi of your choice 3pm yup 8oz of chicken with a fruit Apple banana etc.. now let's say you get your workout in drink another whey shake so its dinner yup chicken an rice with a green and 8pm a casein shake before bed an every other day substitute your morning rice with two servings of fiber one cereal you'll thank me later obviously you can mix your 8oz servings of meat beef venison fish chicken now that's a diet!
okay first off absolutely no orals period Test E only! I will not discuss that any further one compound at a time! I say this because three weeks in when you log in because of a nasty side you don't know which one is causing it cause you didn't add one compound at a time!
Thanks guys for the inputs.food is no prob for me.. When I worked offshore I worked 4weeks on n 4weeks off before I got married so I barely worked out fully for bulk..Tho I played soccer and did light weight throughout the yr I wasn't bulking.. Im more of like a lean 175 with abs n biceps in form..So I know my body.. My test level is at normal..reason I wanted to go this route because a co worker I used to know at my size did a cycle A lil similar to posted and grew like a hulk in 4months.. I'm the only one he told he on roids as result of his massive bulk.. But he pined test prop and equip.. I research my cycle and felt maybe it was safer and will yield the result I'm targeting... My diet for this cycle will include..
Protein shake bagel n yogurt morning..
After moon.. Spaghetti dish and chicken breast n drumstick of chicken with a shake/milk
2nd afternoon meal.. Beef fajita with olive oil..milk
Evening meal.. 2bagels with shake../milk
2hrs after evening meal.. Peanuts with milk..
Last meal.. Cottage cheese with wheat bread...
Correct me if I'm wrong cos I'm here to learn but I've pre planned these meals mixing them up every 2weeks with fish in replacement of meat.. More input guys thanks..
mr127superdeedont use two orals in one cycle especially your first cycle these are both very liver toxic orals dbol winstrol lay off try a test only cycle
At 6'3" and 175lbs, AAS aren't your answer, food is what you need to work on. You clearly aren't eating enough to build mass, which will still be the case no matter how much gear you're using.
My advice, and you'll probably find most will be similar is to get your eating in order, then revisit. Otherwise you're just going to waste money on gear.
From everything I have learned its best to just start of with test at 500mg a week split into 2. Am not that experienced but from the research I have done is it not a bad idea to use dbol and winny in the same cycle 3 weeks apart because of how toxic it can be to the liver miby some experience user correct me on that
IMO I dont believe your diet is in check bro, your 6'3 and 175..those stats kinda suck if your diet is on point.
Post up your diet bro and we'll be glad to help you start there.
As they say 1 compound at a time, I just learned that here, after running my first cycle. Everyone told me 500 mg test a week 2 pins a week, 10 weeks then 2 weeks after last pin Clomed 100 mg a day for 2 weeks then 50 mg a day for 2 weeks, plus Nolva 40mg a day 2 weeks, then 20 mg a day for 2 weeks, This test alone will bulk you up and you dont need to worry about body fat at 6'3 175. So just listen to these guys they know their stuff. For sure 1 compound at a time. Save the D-bol for a later cycle.
Guys below are correct bro.. you need to start training and prep your body before a cycle or you will be in danger of snapping tendons and blowing out your joints with the added strength effect.... and by the way TEST E only forget the orals for now and also forget the bulk/cut all in one thing too thats pure bs until you have some muscles to cut to start with... at 6.3 175lbs BIG EATS is the name of the game here, no other way brother AAS wont do shit if you dont eat big.
Jeezus you couldnt of said it any better vike.:) +1
My advise would be to wait a little before cycling because you said you have not worked out in a year.
Let muscle memory kick in and get u to wear you were at when you were working out or u will be asking for engery.
also first cycle is test only so you know how your body reacts to each compound. Your pct is wrong to do a little bit more reading before cycling my friend
ok bro first i dont think your ready yet for a cycle has you said you have not trained in a year so i would hit the gym and get your diet in check and then maybe 8-12 months from now try a cycle but just test e 12 weeks 500mg per week is the standard , and not trying to be a dick but if you did your research you would see that only 1 compound for your first cycle and it should be test