posted Sat, 04/21/2012 - 13:35
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Yo, completed my first cycle 2 weeks ago and i just started my PCT (clomid and nolvadex). i am looking forward to my next cycle. I have test e and deca on hand which is what i planned on going with in a few months. I have a question about anavar, when should one introduce this to a cycle?
I said before i was only gonna do one cycle but i did pretty good gaining 12 pounds and not looking forward to losing some of it but i am sure i will. Looking to add a few more good pounds and the burn off the fat. Not looking to get huge just want a lean muscular look. I am 5' 9", currently at 172ish and BF was at 12% before the cycle and i dont think i added much. Wouldnt think all 12 pounds was muscle. Would like some advice....thx
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tread-mYou can add the var next cycle and wait on deca for the following. You still have some bf so work that off in a test var run and start a quality run 3rd cycle with deca. I like to be in good shape for a deca run to maximize the quality in a cycle capable of nice gains. How old are you?
What would a good test/anavar cycle look like? Dosage and length of time on each. Im 37 years young
tread-mYeah brother, thats where I'm going then. You can peel that fat off no problem with a var run and some carb manipulation in the run there. Still plenty of room for solid gains as well. A deca run will make it tougher, not impossible, but tougher to drop bf than the test var run. Run every other one as a cutter or hardener and down the road you have the experience to use some products that make life "a tad" easier. Slow and methodical whatever you do here, slow quality gains make their way into your future rather than your past.
I thought it would have been best to try to bulk up more then cut. But that's why you're the GURU. I am guessing to do test e 500mg per week for 12 weeks but how would you recommend I incorporate the anavar?
tread-mYou absolutely can brother if you got real serious in the kitche n. Heres the deal , fat will attract fat and fat will cling to fat more than anything else. So having been bulking if you go into a deca run that is more apt to be inviting to fat you will fight that as you bulk. Now real serious in diet work in the off time here and then real serious in a deca ru n the n it all comes out fine. I'd look to 600 test and 400 deca. Test for 14 weeks and deca for 12 and pct 100/100/50/50 clomid 40/40/20/20 nolv beginning two weeks after last pin . Adex or aromasin and cabergoline on hand with this one. If you decide to run the other one , which is still plenty capable of bulking, you run test at 14 so we have a little more bulk time and pop the var in weeks 11-14 @ 80 split ed. Same pct run adex or aromasin on hand. This one you would bulk train through 10 and bulk eat clean though, then youh could still eat big in the var run to bhelp maintain size but extremely clean and we start playing carb games to peel off the excess fat. We could shred your ass real nice in 4 weeks if you commit to the carb games and we play with the aromasin to deplete estro and dry you out toward the end. Either way, you are in a position where your salt intake needs to be very limited and drink plenty of water and I'm nothing but water. A diet coke or tea maybe once a week. These ar vboth successful cycles I just think the former is a little more work for you. Btw, the lifting stays real big in the var run still trying to lift big with less reps if you want to hold your muscle gains you lift bigger less reps and get your ass out of the gym while we melt fat via carb game and couple other things I don't like spreading all over the boards for the youngins. Anyway, success here either way if you succeed in diet work.
Ok im gonna go with the test/var cycle. And on the diet coke thing, i really need to get that in check. I use diet coke as my get away from eatting bad. I get clean except for the diet coke. I did good in my first cycle with the eatting and gym but im gonna make this one even better. Thx for all the advice!
tread-mTrust me I get it with diet coke! Lol brother I have had a bp war in big cycles forever and not too long back I went to all water only and my bp war has become just a little scuff really off and on. The quality in muscle is better and the salt is all but gone here, made all the difference in the world. The other thing, I'm in a cycle now for quality and vascularity but not even to the carb manipulation and already showing some grain. The water is huge in the run , it really is. Not just that but I just honestly feel better on nothing but water. Theres so much shit in everything it just seems to keep you cleaner all around without the extra fluids. Salt is huge though here, don't want to underestimate it in your specific goals specifically.
whats you take on doing test prop in the beginning of the test e/var cycle?