posted Fri, 10/14/2011 - 08:29
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Newbie advice first cycle
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So I currently have test c and deca both 300mg. I was told by some "experienced" lifters at the gym, if I take deca for 5 weeks at 600mg/w and run test c for 8 weeks at 600mg together that it would be a strong cycle. I also have clomid forthe follow on PCT. Is this okay? Do I need more than this? Any information will help. Thanks
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hllwd is on the money. All these (experienced) members suggestions will do nothing except possibly put you in an early grave.Keep it simple for your first time. If all goes well you will have many more cycles to experiment
500 mg test e for first cycle only!
how old r u?
24
5'10''
195lbs
been lifting since I was 17
Like I said you will want to go into this slowly, dnt take offence to this but your still young (not a kid but young) as you get older your natural test isnt like it is when your younger. Thats about how old I was when I 1st started. I ran cypionate for the 1st time and i didnt have the guidance that this website provides. I had a 30 year old friend that was teaching me about it and I was in no shape form or fashion mature enough to be just given a vial and left with it. Now i know everyones different but this is one of those things i needed help with because of the simple fact of how dangerous it can be. Ive got a friend who is 24 right now and is also running cyp and when he started i was really nervous about it as he was acting like it was cocaine or something. I really had to monitor him to the point of him waisting my time and i just cut him off completely because of him being hardheaded. Im not by any means saying your like him, all im really saying is if your interested in doing this rite, then listen to what the folks that have been doing gear for a long time have to say. I learn something new on here everyday and I have done a tremendous amount of research on AAS, I will be running HGH my next cycle so Im spending the next 8 weeks doing my homework. I know it gets annoying to hear but I promise you it will pay off. not only will have more knowledge to share with others but you will also be able to take the gear that your wanting run, and learn how to run it to get its full benefits. Your on the right track asking questions and gettin input from experienced users. The main thing you want to do when planning a cycle is learning how to run your gear safely and and what works for you. If your running a stack and you have a serious side affect, how are you gonna figure out which one of the different steroids is given you the side affects? especially when your running a long ester steroid that stays in your system for for a few weeks. Its agreed by all of us that have used them for a long period of time that you trial and error isnt a mistake that you wanna take. Like i said Ill be more than happy to help you with anything you wanna know and if its a question I cant answer I promise you I can refer you to someone who knows. Your on Eroids now partner, Us eroiders try to stick together and help each other out in any way that we possibly can..............from a compter of course lol. 1st off, you need to research how to inject correctly and learn about aspirating. Also learn about keeping your injections germ free and where you can inject. Note that your injection spots should be rotating, what i mean is you dnt wanna keep injecting in the same spot every shot. Here's a link that I think will help you with your injections and it also explains alot of question you may have in concering syringes and injections.
http://octcca.org/inject.htm
Popeboy you definitely have alot info that I very much appreciate! I will be in contact with you when i am ready to try again, however I have a side issue that I need to get rid of first. Thanks again for all of your help!
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ok bra, i run those 2 on my last cycle, as others has said deca is taken at half the dose of test to avoid deca dick. 1st off stacks are for experienced users. start your cycle at a beginner dose of 250-300mg. i will be happy 2 help you juat pm me.
From what I've read you must always take at least double the testosterone than Deca unless you want to suffer from erectile dysfunction. Also maybe you'd want to hold on to that Deca until at least your 3rd cycle: it's supposed to be a more advanced medication and a simpler cycle with only Test and an oral is an easier alternative.
hmm...
1. these "experienced" lifters should have guided you to a simple 10-12wk 500ew test (e)or(c) cycle
2. 5wks on deca? 8wks on test c? the fact that u can't see whats wrong with that tells me that u (and ur "experienced" lifters) need to get into some more research
3. my suggestion would be to stay away from those guys and wrap your brain around some "actual" information. Start with researching long ester compounds
**NOT being a Dick, just trying to guide you responsibly
Sorry, I can't PM yet. I've been around here for a couple weeks and you seem to know a lot about cycles. Could I get your recommendation? I have Test E and Deca, both 250mg, and cabergoline. I'm 6'3" 235lbs. Want to get some nice lean gains. I'm thinking 750-1000mg Test E and 500mg Deca and how much cabergoline? Never taken cabergoline. I'm still fairly a new to a proper cycle. I've taken a few tests, winny, dbol, stuff of that nature. Also don't know much about PCT. Any direction on a proper cycle would be greatly appreciated man.
AnonThere is a sticky on How to run a cycle in the forum on Cycles (if I am not mistaken about which group to look under) trtblastcruise wrote it and it is very good. Maybe you should start there so you have a better basis to ask questions from.
i agree 100% with hllwdbdboy. 5wks on deca is nothing. and imo shouldnt be used on your first cycle. just stick with either test c, test E, or sust, at 500mgs per week for 10-12 weeks. then PCT starts 3 weeks after last injection. you def need to research a lot more. those guys at the gym sound like inexperienced tools.
Definitely, I just found this forum a a couple of weeks ago, so i am new to this whole game and Im learning. Only problem with learning... you have to learn from you mistakes. THanks for the help.
AnonJuice is absolutely right, gear isn't something you want to "learn from your mistakes" with. There is a lot of good info out there if you take the time too look for it.
Thats not true! Do your research bro and you wont have to make so many mistakes plain and simple!